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snowman72 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: Mike |
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Thanks for the advice i am happy to do this just wasnt sure about the X number just getting cheesed of with TT and the amout of time they are taking to fix i used to work in IT and if we ever had a bug like this we would have to fix it with in days not months |
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snowman72 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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I have found a one small problem with this update i now cant add any routes as i use to was but i guess its only one small problem till tomtom release an update |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks |
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snowman72 wrote: | I have found a one small problem with this update i now cant add any routes as i use to was |
Sorry, do you mean you can't add "Itineraries", or something else? |
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snowman72 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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hi when you in tomtom home their you can add routes but it seems like its sorted itself out could have been a one of thing |
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navver Regular Visitor

Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 111 Location: Chipping Sodbury
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I have gone back to human voices and I must say I find them easier to follow. There is less jabbering away and I get easy clear simple instructions.
I find all the street names and oddly pronnounced road numbers (A four thousand one hundred and seventy four instead of A four one seven four) distract me from following the directions.
I'm sure they could have got road numbers pronounced in the normal way or are we not normal in the west country. |
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scotch_whisky Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Over 500 posts and 55,000 reads so far shows the extent of this problem. As only a tiny percentage of TomTom users will be aware of Pocketgpsworld the number of unhappy users must be enormous.
TomTom are still, as at yesterday, denying that there is a problem.
TomTom are undoubtedly the market leader and their product is quite good when it works although nowhere near as good as it was in the early PDA days.
It looks like they have decided to abandon X20 users. They could easily fix it by using slightly modifed x40 firmware but have apparantly decided that we should buy the new hardware. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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navver wrote: |
I'm sure they could have got road numbers pronounced in the normal way or are we not normal in the west country. |
This has cropped up before...
The problem is that *we* are not consistent!
The trouble is... we humans aren't consistent:
A1 - "ay one"
A100 - "ay one hundred"
A101 - "ay one oh one"
A110 - "ay one ten"
A205 - "ay two oh five"
A220 - "ay two twenty" or "ay two two oh"
A4020 - "ay four oh two oh" or "ay forty twenty"
What's a poor (computer) girl to do? |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly. 2 roads near me. I have only ever heard people refer to the A217 as the "ay two one seven" but the A240 can be "ay two four oh" or "ay two forty"... |
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snowman72 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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scotch_whisky wrote: | Over 500 posts and 55,000 reads so far shows the extent of this problem. As only a tiny percentage of TomTom users will be aware of Pocketgpsworld the number of unhappy users must be enormous.
TomTom are still, as at yesterday, denying that there is a problem.
TomTom are undoubtedly the market leader and their product is quite good when it works although nowhere near as good as it was in the early PDA days.
It looks like they have decided to abandon X20 users. They could easily fix it by using slightly modifed x40 firmware but have apparantly decided that we should buy the new hardware. |
I have spoken to tomtom and they have said they are aware of this problem but as you guessed it their still working on a fix for it how long it will take to fix is anyones guess.
This problem is not only affecting the uk but also the usa as well
And you can imaging what they are all saying |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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scotch_whisky wrote: |
TomTom are still, as at yesterday, denying that there is a problem. |
snowman72 wrote: | I have spoken to tomtom and they have said they are aware of this problem but as you guessed it their still working on a fix for it |
As ever... two different replies from TomTom?
I would tend to agree with "snowman" - TT *are* very aware of it, but we still aren't sure how much effort they are putting in to fixing it.
Do you have any quotes from TomTom that you can paste here "scotch"? |
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jimbo_hippo Frequent Visitor

Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 444
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pleased Snowman and Scotch chipped in here as I was beginning to think I'd been a bit of goon with my Sunday Night Rant :-)
Interestingly, you can still buy a 720 on Amazon so it's not like we're asking to reboot something made by Babbage. Many of us came over from PDA after the development froze on that version. I thought I was moving into the current era but evidently not.
As I said in my last post, reinforced by other comments, Tom Tom are playing a very dangerous game here IMHO.
Also, I've just spent half an hour responding to some posts on a scandinavian forum regarding my line of work. Easy to do during a coffee break. We consider it to be a responsibility of a manufacturer. Tom Tom should do the same. They don't seem to realise that getting involved isn't an admission to a crime, it's the best way to improve your products in the real world whilst reinforcing customer relationships. I bet I'm wasting my breath saying that though - we all appear to be talking to ourselves in a parallel universe as far as I can see. _________________ Tom Tom GO 720
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure SOMEONE at TT Towers must glance over the various user-forums, but I can remember two instances of TomTom Employees who got directly involved.
One disappeared almost immediately, and the other one got "disciplined" by TT for posting here.
I'm used to TT, taking their time over fixing things, but the almost complete "radio silence" over whether they are going to fix this v8.3 debacle is very worrying. |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
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Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Toronto CANADA
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: | I'm sure SOMEONE at TT Towers must glance over the various user-forums, but I can remember two instances of TomTom Employees who got directly involved.
One disappeared almost immediately, and the other one got "disciplined" by TT for posting here.
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Same in NA........
Had an employee on one forum show up for a few days last Fall. He was really helpful and honest about what was going on....
Got fired by TomTom after 2 days of posting on the forum!  _________________ David |
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Goto10 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jun 11, 2004 Posts: 37 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I've just plugged my 930 into Home for the first time in months, got the update prompt for navcore 8.3 but not yet installed it - I decided to check these forums first after previously getting very burnt with useless firmware on my old 720 some time back. Sure enough it appears TomTom have balls'ed this up too.
I currently have 8.010 and maps 805.1801, should I bother with 8.3 or avoid it like the plague? (I have a windows backup of the device, again lessons learnt from the past)
I would also like to buy the quarterly update package for the maps, can I retain navcore 8.010 or do new maps require 8.3?. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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If the new maps are vital then you need to update the application to 8,300 for the v815 maps to work.
To be honest I would sit the next couple of weeks out and then seek further advice on the forum as there should be new maps at some point in Feb which usually means a new application - one we hope doesn't stutter or slow the screen refresh rate down. - Mike |
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