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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Satmapian,
According to the instructions they are easily removable but you can't reapply them.
New one every time I am afraid.
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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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satmapian wrote: | Hi, just wondered if these screen protectors are easily removable should they develop the above problems? If they are are the re-applyable?
Just curious. I've ordered one for the inner screen, and wondering whether to order a second for the outer as well. That way I should never need to replace a screen... or should I get a 3rd for the inside surface of the outer screen?  |
It would be cheaper to buy a set of three replaceable screens which already come with screen protectors applied on both sides.They are about £15 or so for three and you would have three spare screens
Another two Invisible Shields will be over £16 with no spare screens.
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em194543 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Bosun wrote: |
It would be cheaper to buy a set of three replaceable screens which already come with screen protectors applied on both sides.They are about £15 or so for three and you would have three spare screens
Another two Invisible Shields will be over £16 with no spare screens.
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Do the replacement screens now come with the sponge backing? as originally this was ommited
Cheers
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satmapian Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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I see that Ian, although you have to deduct the cost of one for the inner screen, as you'd want that anyway.
Being new to Satmap, I'm not sure how long the screens last. Some posts suggest they deteriorate quickly, and certainly the demos I looked at in the shops were shot to bits. Naturally it would depend on use, and I tend to take more care of my gear than average.
Still 2 Invisible shields might be a permanent solution. Maybe 3 depending on reduction in visibility of the screen. I don't want to have to turn up the brightness, and compromise battery life. |
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Westlothian Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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One Zagg is already increasing the strain on the cover lugs - two would be pushing your luck! Three layers of film, each with a glue layer would be optically nasty - but maybe some tired photons could get through
With the top cover off the Zagg doesn't look too bad so if an air-gap can be maintained to stop the annoying watermark that should be the best alround protection of the inner (expensive) screen. I hope that the claimed additional hardening should do the trick - so I have left it cover-off for another 24 hours and sent a photo to Zagg for their ideas too.
P.S. I have improved the contact problem by making a electrical tape shim to "frame" mounting that separates the cover from the film with help keep the air-gap.
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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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em194543 wrote: | Bosun wrote: |
It would be cheaper to buy a set of three replaceable screens which already come with screen protectors applied on both sides.They are about £15 or so for three and you would have three spare screens
Another two Invisible Shields will be over £16 with no spare screens.
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Do the replacement screens now come with the sponge backing? as originally this was ommited
Cheers
Mark |
No they don't come with a sponge backing,maybe thats the problem.
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satmapian Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thought I might be pushing it Westlothian - cheers
Went out today for my 3rd Satmap walk, and the 1st since the v1.3 update. No freeze up for the first time  |
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Westlothian Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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After a few more days the ripples and most of the adhesive opaque regions have improved. Zagg offered a complimentary replacement invisibleSHIELD if I pay the postage and post back the original one. I thanked them for this but declined; with the screen on the display looks fine.
The lifetime guarantee against scratches and peeling means that I can get a replacement if anything deteriorates in the future. |
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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone wanting to polish superficial scratches out of the screen protector,try rubbing gently with some toothpaste then rinsing with water.
Does the job.
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ESBARK Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bosun,
A very timely solution for me.
I have used various gps units for over 10 years now and have never seen anything scratch as easily as the outer screen protector on this unit !!!
Probably something to do with it needing to be moulded with location pips on or something.
I think it touched a wooden stile support at one point and perhaps it also touched the plastic zip on my fleece.---- Scratched screen cover and its only done about 8 miles.
Anyway, out comes the toothpaste. |
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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yes they are very prone to scratching.I keep the SatMap in an Aquapac when out walking and even the clear plastic of the Aquapac case scratches the SatMap screen protector.
Still at least they can be replaced unlike most GPSr which would require a new screen so it's not all bad news.
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satmapian Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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So I've got my screen protector now (just the one). All I need to decide is which screen to put it on:
The outer one that scratches really easily, but is replaceable with less than perfect spares allbeit cheaply, or
the inner one that's supposed to be protected by the outer, but is expensive to replace, should grit get in.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm  |
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Westlothian Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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The softness of the outer has the benefit of letting you remove scratches quite easily with T-Cut, Brasso or even toothpaste (ref. Bosun). The inner screen is also quite soft and picked up some marks from fine grit getting between the two screens.
I would recommend protecting the inner screen and then living with the outer screen by polishing out any major scratches when they bother you. A Zagg on the upper surface of both screens would also be reasonable fix. |
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Bosun Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Satmapian,
The problem that I think sparked all this screen protector stuff of was that someone ( on this forum I think ) had got some grit between the two screens and when removing the outer screen upwards the grit had been pulled up with the protector and scratched the inner screen.I seem to recall they are £40 to replace.
For what it is worth I would stick with just a protector on the inner screen and live with polishing/replacing the outer as and when needed as Westlothian suggests.You of course may decide differently.
If you wanted you could try encasing the Sat Map in some tight Cling Film.Cheap and cheerful but worth trying.
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LostMike Frequent Visitor

Joined: Jan 17, 2008 Posts: 369 Location: Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have used my A10 for over a year and at least once every week. The screen has some marks but nothing that troubles me. I have put a soft screen protector on the inner screen as this seemed to make sense (done after about 6 months) the outer screen appeared to come with a screen protector on it and while it now shows a few marks there are no serous problems. I am puzzled at the trouble others seem to be having.
I keep my A10 on my shoulder in the original bag it came in and refer to it regularly on walks. _________________ LostMike
Satmap A10. Platform 21
Software version 1.5.9193
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