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Joined: Aug 18, 2008 Posts: 82 Location: North Wales UK
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject:
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am wondering if there are some things that one could get rid of that would free up more RAM and if that would help ??? I have about 14 mb free ram now out of the 64mb it comes with on the 920
14Mb left from 64Mb should in my opinion cause the device to work OK garcor, so I think the general theory on this forum, that the Loquendo file for the X20 devices supplied with Nav.8.3 is probably the culprit... I still believe that the X20/30/40 devices are working on the limit of available RAM... and I cannot for the life of me undersand why Tom Tom have not increased the RAM on the X30 and particularly the X40 devices to at least 128Mb... they seem to be depending on software updates to justify new models, rather than new hardware.........
I am sure that they will make available, a new Navcore update to alleviate thes stuttering map and voice problems within the next few weeks... and in the meantime, users may be advised to revert to the 8.01 Navcore and 8.10 maps... but this means of course that folks who have paid for the quarterly upgrade have "unusable" maps that they have paid for... I think that Tom Tom should give these customers an extra quarterr to compensate for the "not fit for purpose" state of the current 8.3 map for X20 devices, which is of course, the "latest map available" for those devices at present.
Alan. _________________ Tom Tom Go 520 - Map UK ROI 720.1803 Navcore_8.204.9718.go40 - ( Loquendo TTS7 ) / RDS-TMC /Tyre... purchased the Go mainly for the itinerary feature
Go back in to the Change Preferences settings and make sure the POI files you don't need showing on the map are actually turned off, there have been reports of this update enabling them all again thus slowing the device down - Mike
Yes, loading 8.3 did 'enable' every 3rd party POI, but not the built in ones. _________________ Alan
Go 750 LIVE Europe Map 870.3406
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Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:
And if people have got a large number of POI files installed to their device and the software update has stupidly switched them all on, this will be causing some of the slow down related issues - Mike
Joined: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 332 Location: East Sussex
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: Where Is The IQ in these maps?
I had to drive to Keston, Kent last night from Newhaven, East Sussex.
With my trusty TT520 on the dash with latest software and maps off I went...
The unit is set for fastest routes, no unpaved roads and IQ routes on.
Headed onto the A26, A22, A27, A23, M23, M25 to exit for A22 to Caterham.
Then on A22 towards caterham and the Caterham Bypass.
Then it got odd and took me down stupid narrow lanes for the remainder of the trip.
It said the 5th exit Woldingham Road and from that point on it was all narrow, sometime 1 car wide only lanes unit I finally came out in Heathfield Road, Keston which is where I was going.
It did take the time it estimated and journey was 65 miles.
I refused to use it for the trip home. The crap routing and the stutters, announcements late all put me off the TT experience.
I got my Road Angel 9000 out of the boot, stuck in on the dash, waited for it to boot from cold and it took me home on a route which was 44 miles long but did take 5 minutes longer.
By now cant these gadgets realise that driving down single track roads is not a good ideal and worse of course in the dark.
I never knew there were so many narrow roads that close to London
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 3219 Location: Windlesham, Surrey
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Where Is The IQ in these maps?
HummerUK wrote:
The unit is set for fastest routes, no unpaved roads and IQ routes on.
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It did take the time it estimated and journey was 65 miles.
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I got my Road Angel 9000 out of the boot, stuck in on the dash, waited for it to boot from cold and it took me home on a route which was 44 miles long but did take 5 minutes longer.
By now cant these gadgets realise that driving down single track roads is not a good ideal and worse of course in the dark.
But it did what you asked it to do. It gave you the fastest route.
You don't want to drive down narrow lanes, but I prefer them, and at night it avoids the problem of constant oncoming headlights, which I find more troublesome the older I get. So how is a satnav supposed to get it right for both of us?
Surely the solution is to check the route on the device before setting off and, if it doesn't suit you, select an alternative. _________________ Anita
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Joined: Apr 21, 2007 Posts: 332 Location: East Sussex
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Where Is The IQ in these maps?
Anita wrote:
HummerUK wrote:
The unit is set for fastest routes, no unpaved roads and IQ routes on.
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It did take the time it estimated and journey was 65 miles.
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I got my Road Angel 9000 out of the boot, stuck in on the dash, waited for it to boot from cold and it took me home on a route which was 44 miles long but did take 5 minutes longer.
By now cant these gadgets realise that driving down single track roads is not a good ideal and worse of course in the dark.
But it did what you asked it to do. It gave you the fastest route.
You don't want to drive down narrow lanes, but I prefer them, and at night it avoids the problem of constant oncoming headlights, which I find more troublesome the older I get. So how is a satnav supposed to get it right for both of us?
Surely the solution is to check the route on the device before setting off and, if it doesn't suit you, select an alternative.
It may have been the fastest but what about passenger safety?
Also does the IQ routing think you can drive down these narrow lanes at 60mph?
I did check the route it planned earlier in the week and I think "IQ" had now selected a different route for a Saturday night rather than a weekday during daylight hours...
I had no time to re go over the route it had planned the Saturday night...
Also I think it could have an option to suit all.
Under options "Avoid Single Track Roads Where Possible"
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 3219 Location: Windlesham, Surrey
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Where Is The IQ in these maps?
HummerUK wrote:
It may have been the fastest but what about passenger safety?
I use country lanes all the time and, if they're driven in an appropriate manner, passenger safety isn't compromised. In view of the speed, if there were to be a collision the only damage is likely to be to the vehicles.
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Also does the IQ routing think you can drive down these narrow lanes at 60mph?
Presumably not, since you say it did take the estimated time, and I'm sure you drove at an appropriate speed. _________________ Anita
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UK map 1130.12368
Samsung Galaxy S21
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: Q routes
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I use country lanes all the time and, if they're driven in an appropriate manner, passenger safety isn't compromised. In view of the speed, if there were to be a collision the only damage is likely to be to the vehicles.
I think it is a known fact that rural roads are more dangerous than the larger thoroughfares in this country.
I live in a rural area and the amount of flowers you see stuck to trees or other such areas by the side of the road is sometimes quite disturbing.
"an appropriate manner" can be used for all types of driving.
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Also does the IQ routing think you can drive down these narrow lanes at 60mph?
The problem may be that there was not enough info. for the IQ routes to work and therefore it did think you can go down those roads at 60 miles an hour.
What if you try a "Calculate Route" in that area, now with the new IQ routes it seems to pick the correct speed for the demo route, not just the maximum speed allowed on that road, and see what it comes up with
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 3219 Location: Windlesham, Surrey
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Q routes
carl_the_cobbler wrote:
I live in a rural area and the amount of flowers you see stuck to trees or other such areas by the side of the road is sometimes quite disturbing.
I must live in a very different sort of rural area from you, or maybe the people who live here drive more sensibly.
I also see plenty of flowers by the roadside, but they're on the A roads, not the narrow country lanes. I've lived in this area for 40 years, and I've yet to hear of an accident on the lanes causing serious injury, let alone fatality, but there have been plenty of deaths on the A roads. _________________ Anita
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject:
D4VE wrote:
technik wrote:
I like playing the built in game to beat the ETA.
I always win.
Snap
I always lose (because I'm not pushing the envelope, I'm saving the cost of fuel and what the heck is five minutes going to benefit me - at my age I need a guaranteed 50 years, not 5 minutes). A friend in the whitevanman business told me the other day that he'd gone to meet somebody to transfer a load at a motorway junction and he'd pushed it at 80 to save keeping the guy waiting. On the return journey he'd slowed below 60 and was amazed to discover that he took less than five minutes longer, but gratified to find he'd averaged a good 15 miles per gallon better fuel consumption. For a delivery 100 miles away, I generally add 10 to 15 minutes to the ETA for the delivery promise and never let anybody down. _________________ Dennis
Joined: Nov 14, 2003 Posts: 2146 Location: Surrounded by A1, M1 & M25
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:03 am Post subject:
I must admit I do think that some of the IQ routes information is just not good. One route I frequently do is far quicker on the dual carriageway (A1061 London Colney bypass and A414) that is very slightly longer in distance than the IQ route that takes me through a housing estate (London Colney) and a narrow country lane (White Horse Lane 51.73088 -0.28942) where the roads are narrow and have choke points where a parked car means only one car can pass at a time.
A stick to major roads option would be good. Also I assume that if I had an HGV it would still try and route me through the housing estates?
Joined: Oct 17, 2005 Posts: 390 Location: Washington DC
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject:
How are the new Tele Atlas maps, in regards to areas that were helped my MapShare/Map Insight/Google Maps Edits? Has anyone seen areas that they submitted frequent corrections to be improved? Were the corrections supposed to come as soon as this map update? I'm excited to see what impact the inflow of information will have when it starts happening.
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