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Froggy Regular Visitor
Joined: Sep 28, 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: TomTom Launch New x40 LIVE SatNav Range at IFA (540/740/940) |
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Look on the bright side. Tomtom release new maps and software on a regular basis - compare this to Navman, who stick two fingers up at their customers and provide no new software or maps for devices as little as 2 years old.
I loved my old Navman, but the maps had become so out of date - there was no way I would risk the same happening again, so I am now a happy Tomtom customer, fairly safe in the knowledge that I will be able to buy up to date maps in the future. As long as the maps are accurate, I have no desire to buy the 'latest gadget' - I suspect there are still many happy owners of the original Go. |
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carl_the_cobbler Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 251
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | They are supplemental and aimed at a different market segment.
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What market is that then?
Surely it is a valid complaint, and therefore not pointless, if the opportunity to purchase new maps and new features is not there unless you initially purchase the new piece of equipment that those new map versions and new features come on.
My x20 is now an x30 as I purchased the new maps that came out this week. I wanted that functionality ages ago, and would have purchased the upgrade as soon as I found out about the difference, but was unable to.
Some people who own these "older" models may want the LIVE functionality and it should be an option afforded to them as soon as possible, not we'll bring out another model with unique features and get the people to buy it, then bring out a piece of hardware or whatever is required for the poor sods who purchased a brand new model some 6 months ago, it strikes me as a little unfair. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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The Live service such as HD Traffic is available in Holland on the x20/ x30 devices by connecting the HD Traffic receiver to the device and paying the subscription charges to use the service.
HD Traffic is not currently available in the UK (although it is scheduled for release, but don't ask when!) So there is no point in TomTom selling an accessory in the UK for a service that isn't there to use.
With your x20 updated to the v810 maps and connected to a HD Traffic receiver will you have the same as the 940? - I very much doubt it, it might be close but TomTom will always offer additional new functionality on the newer devices otherwise no one would purchase them! - Mike |
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carl_the_cobbler Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 251
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I don't want this to appear as me having a pop at anyone, any machine or any company, I am over the moon with my purchases, I think the piece of hardware combined with the software does the job beautifully it is very consumer friendly if you read the instructions or if you are willing to balls stuff up once in a while (and have backed it all up).
But my problem with the whole Tomtom outlook is that there are too many "new" machines. Gadget gimp that I am I doubt I will upgrade to a "new" machine until it drives the car for me.
What was the release dates for the three pieces of Hardware 920, 930 and now 940? **Holy Cow I've just looked and the 930 was only launched in March according to this forum, that is pretty poor!!!!**
The 920 and 930 are virtually the same machine, but basically the 930 came with a different map with new features, surely if you, as has been done now, sell those maps and new functionality onto the one piece of hardware then more people would purchase your machine, but now if you are in the know, when will you upgrade? What is coming next? When is it coming? Should I wait? Will it still work with what I bought a few months ago?
I think your
Quote: | With your x20 updated to the v810 maps and connected to a HD Traffic receiver will you have the same as the 940? - I very much doubt it, it might be close but TomTom will always offer additional new functionality on the newer devices otherwise no one would purchase them! |
statement sums it up really. They are pushing very expensive bits of equipment on people continuously, ok you don't have to buy them, but spending that much money on something for it to become obsolete or second best, and there nothing you can do about it until they decide to hand it down to the "lesser" models in time is not on, when you buy a piece of hardware it should be fully supported IMMEDIATELY otherwise you(I do anyway) feel you have been slightly shortchanged.
Anyway I will try and stop my waffle, and as I have said I think what I have bought is great I just get nagging doubts about the people in charge of its potential.
Happy driving!! |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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roadangelboss wrote: | Darren - the clue is in my nick name |
Ah yes noted _________________ Darren Griffin |
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IsLNdbOi Occasional Visitor
Joined: Dec 17, 2006 Posts: 14
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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What connections are on the mount?
I'm assuming one is for power, one is for the accessory port (iPod cable, TMC antenna, etc.), and the last one is and audio out / headphone jack? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Yup there is miniUSB for power and possibly the miniUSB TMC Antenna accessory, the others are iPod/original TMC antenna and audio out. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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IsLNdbOi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Good to hear. Now, if I could only find something that will let me mount a TomTom on a Garmin sized mounting ball... |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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You should also be aware that the connections I refer to are for the 940 mount, lesser models differ. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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IsLNdbOi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Yup. I'm aware that they're on the 940's mount.
I wish someone made an adapter with a TomTom sized mounting ball on one side and a socket for a Garmin sized mounting ball on the other side. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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You're assuming their is a standard 'TomTom' size of mounting ball! The x10's were the last device to use a mounting ball until the arrival of the x40's and I've no idea if they are the same. is this for a RAM Mount? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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IsLNdbOi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I have one of these on my driver side glovebox behind my steering wheel:
http://www.kudausa.com/garmin_nuvi_mount_adaptor_holder_with_trim_ring-1228.html
Here's a picture of it in my car:
If I could use that w/ a TomTom GO 940 if and when they're available in the USA, that would be great. I have a Nuvi 205 right now and the voice recognition feature on the 940 would be a useful feature to me. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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It'd be simpler to replace that with an adhesive disk and then affix TomTom's mount to that? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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IsLNdbOi Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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It's a curved surface and adhesive disks don't stick well on it. I tried doing that with the adhesive disc that came with my Garmin and it just kept coming off.
I guess I could just use self-tapping screws to screw through the TomTom mount (the part with the ball on it) and screw into the same holes I used for the Garmin mounting ball. |
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Ludde Lifetime Member
Joined: 29/12/2002 19:56:49 Posts: 6 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know if the new holder for TomTom 940 (the active one)
fits a TomTom 930. |
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