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chelsky Regular Visitor

Joined: Jul 27, 2007 Posts: 160 Location: Kent
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: EU Rounderbouts |
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Hello, I have a TT720 with Western European maps. When driving in France or Spain and approach a rounderbout I get different instructions. Sometimes it is " Right at the rounderbout 2nd exit. Sometimes "Left at the rounderbout 2nd exit" Has anybody else had this problem? Obviously I follow the traffic but I was just wondering why this occures. Any ideas please.
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JaguarV12e Regular Visitor

Joined: Feb 07, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Cambridge UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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The "left" or "right" "straight ahead" is describing the roundabout as if it were a normal crossroads, and giving an idea of the final dirction of travel. It is not telling you to go clockwise or anticlockwise around the roundabout. _________________ Tomtom Go 1005
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mpwilson99 Lifetime Member

Joined: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 462 Location: Hickstead, Sussex
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi!
This is no different with the UK ( as far as i can see )
If im at a roundabout, sometimes i get told " At the roundabout, bear right 4th exit "
I dont actually turn right when i first go around it, anymore then you would going left on an EU rounabout.
I think the `Turn Right` part is at your current direction of travel when you approach the Roundabout, not what way to turn around it!
Of course, if your like me and use the WVM voice, i always get told to go striaghtover it
Cheers
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GPS_fan Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Like others have said, this is an approximate guide to how far around the roundabout you need to drive before exiting.
You may not have noticed, but there is also a roundabout icon which appears in the status bar and that also gives you a rough idea of how far around a roundabout your exit is as well as indicating which way to drive around it.
What might be helpful would be to plan a short journey in your local area which includes a roundabout and run a demo route so that you can see exactly what audible instructions you receive as well as what is displayed on the screen.
Here are a few illustrations from the status bar, showing the direction of travel around the roundabout and roughly where to exit:
Quote: | Go left on the roundabout, first exit |
Quote: | Cross the roundabout, second exit |
Quote: | Go right on the roundabout, third exit |
This image gives an idea of the advance warning you may receive:
I hope this is helpful. _________________ Andy
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nice replies guys...  |
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cecilrhode Regular Visitor

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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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bang on the nail GPS, couldnt be clearer |
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chelsky Regular Visitor

Joined: Jul 27, 2007 Posts: 160 Location: Kent
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for your replies. I can sleep easy tonight!!!!
Regards David |
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Brickie64 Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Lincoln (UK)
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Guys, I think the above explanations cover it pretty well but I have noticed a number of differences in the way the roudabout turn instructions are given depending on which type of voice you select.
As said previously, "Cross the roundabout - second exit" seems to be a favourite with a computer based voice but with some recorded voices, you seem to get a different instruction if I remember - something like ... at the roundabout take the second exit. You don't always seem to get the direction like cross, left or right at the roundabout.
All seem to work fine in UK and Europe in my experience.
Gav  _________________ "A good scientist is a person with original ideas. A good engineer is a person who makes a design that works with as few original ideas as possible"
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mpwilson99 Lifetime Member

Joined: Jun 30, 2007 Posts: 462 Location: Hickstead, Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Brickie,
The `custom` voices have these parameters...
Rb
Left
Right
Cross
Exit1
Exit2
Exit3
Exit4
Exit5
Exit6
For example, a 1st exit might be,
at the roundabout, bear left, 1st exit.
This would also be the same in the EU, if the 1st exit was all the way around towards the left!
The custom voices can make up anything, and depending on what one you have, the rbleft - rbright might be a clear sound, so all you hear is, at the roundabout, 1st exit.
Cheers
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Brickie64 Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Lincoln (UK)
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi MPW,
Thanks for the info, is there anywhere to read up more on the subject of how custom voices are created for TT or is this from your experience ?
Gav _________________ "A good scientist is a person with original ideas. A good engineer is a person who makes a design that works with as few original ideas as possible"
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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If you go to Change references/ Voice Preferences then select "Record Voice" the device will step you through each of the navigation voice prompts it uses (57 in total - Who mentioned Heinz).
You don't have to record anything, but you can if you want to, follow the onscreen advice then step through each of the spoken commands to find out what the device uses - Mike |
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cecilrhode Regular Visitor

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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There are many different sources of custom voices, some knocking around for a while, and hence quite old. So many sources introduce variability in the actual words chosen (not all amateurs or get rich scammers stick to the rules). There is also the possibility that over time the actual dialogue has changed, so that older custom voices that did conform to the original rules no longer do.....
Try changing voices and doing a route demo and see if the commands differ. Try comparing custom voices with standard TT ones, and comparing different custom voices. |
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chelsky Regular Visitor

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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All good advice, thank you. I will experiment.
David |
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