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FloydT Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 18, 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Moving target...
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: Illegal while driving ... or riding your bicycle |
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About grantp's "listening to Ipod while cycling" comment, already dislegal in some US jurisdictions! At least if you are wearing both ear phones. Same logic as the more wide-spread laws against driving while wearing earphones covering both ears. You can't hear what's going on around you, like the siren on the cop car trying to get your attention... Of course they make the assumption that everyone listens to their music or audiobooks at deafening levels. Thanks for bringing several points to my attention, including the new Germal rules, that will keep some of my money in my wallet when my ramblings bring me to Europe.
FloydT
Have Passport; will travel.
Retired moving target somewhere in North America at the moment.
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I can see the likes of Apple not liking this and take it to the European courts to lodge a complaint.
Apple have just launched the new iPhone's and making heavy advertisment of the built in GPS so Germany has helped to kill sales of the iPhone for people who wanted them for the GPS. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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grantp Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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FloydT
I suspect there will be several existing laws in most jurisdictions to prevent people doing almost anything but that, sadly, does not prevent lawmakers and their masters coming up with new derivations for self evident social control purposes.
So that means, since they have cyclists covered already, all we need are laws to stop pedestrians walking the streets listening to iPods or talking on telephones while moving.
Now, let's see, what else with road safety in mind, er, oh yes. How about 'Walking, running or any other form of self powered mobility whilst under the influence of alcohol or drugs'.
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robert1275 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Depends on Use |
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Darren: We have read the court's decision and this ruling applies ONLY if the individual has the device in their hand or touches it while driving. So if the smartphone is in a PDA holder this is fine |
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grantp Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Depends on Use |
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robert1275 wrote: | Darren: We have read the court's decision and this ruling applies ONLY if the individual has the device in their hand or touches it while driving. So if the smartphone is in a PDA holder this is fine |
Unless you need to adjust something that requires touching the device?
Presumably a remote control for the device could be touched - or would that be deemed to be part of the device?
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RobBrady Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Illegal while driving ... or riding your bicycle |
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FloydT wrote: | About grantp's "listening to Ipod while cycling" comment, already dislegal in some US jurisdictions! At least if you are wearing both ear phones. Same logic as the more wide-spread laws against driving while wearing earphones covering both ears. You can't hear what's going on around you, like the siren on the cop car trying to get your attention... Of course they make the assumption that everyone listens to their music or audiobooks at deafening levels. |
... and have they banned all profoundly deaf people in these jurisdictions from driving I wonder _________________ Robert Brady |
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simontdc Regular Visitor
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Er, the iPhone would already be illegal with this use in the UK - and probably most of Europe.
Being a hand held device that is something that ‘is or must be held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function’. A device ‘similar’ to a mobile phone includes a device that can be used for sending or receiving spoken or written messages, sending or receiving still or moving images or providing Internet access. _________________ G1NTX AFRIN LRPS |
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