| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
junglykutha
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Posts: 2
|
 Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Darren wrote: | HTC Have announced the XDA Diamond for O2 Germany today, the spec sheet lists TomTom Navigator 7 preinstalled, see here.
We're seeking more information and will update that thread as we receive it. |
You have to hand it to TomTom.....way to treat your loyal customers. While we are stuck with maps that are a over a year old with no update in sight. The Diamonds been hacked and the pirates are enjoying their free upgrade to TTN7. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Darren
Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40
Posts: 23848
Location: Hampshire, UK
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
Indeed, this is almost laughable. BUT, the pirated version isn't worth bothering with, it needs a lot of twiddling to work AND you'd still be stuck with v6 maps.
TomTom have been very foolish with this decision and it does nothing to reward loyal and honest customers of their PPC product platforms.
_________________
Darren Griffin |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TheBrit
Regular Visitor
![]()
Joined: Jul 18, 2006
Posts: 111
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Darren wrote: | | Indeed, this is almost laughable. BUT, the pirated version isn't worth bothering with, it needs a lot of twiddling to work AND you'd still be stuck with v6 maps. |
This might not be true. Over at XDA-Developers people seem to be having some success.
| Darren wrote: | | TomTom have been very foolish with this decision and it does nothing to reward loyal and honest customers of their PPC product platforms. |
I certainly agree with this.
_________________
Paul
HTC Desire HD - Sygic |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gav28
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 08, 2005
Posts: 16
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | Darren wrote:
TomTom have been very foolish with this decision and it does nothing to reward loyal and honest customers of their PPC product platforms
|
Indeed, I used to be a customer, no more though  I have moved over to Garmin XT, what a great product :-)
Gavin |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
divadiow
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 14, 2005
Posts: 30
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| TheBrit wrote: | | Darren wrote: | | Indeed, this is almost laughable. BUT, the pirated version isn't worth bothering with, it needs a lot of twiddling to work AND you'd still be stuck with v6 maps. |
This might not be true. Over at XDA-Developers people seem to be having some success.
| Darren wrote: | | TomTom have been very foolish with this decision and it does nothing to reward loyal and honest customers of their PPC product platforms. |
I certainly agree with this. |
I have seen western europe 710 working with the HTC TT7.
_________________
Fuji-Siemens Loox 420 WM2003SE -- TT 7 -- UK+IE 720 -- TT Bluetooth Sirf II -- 2GB SD |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There have been reports on the internet of various maps working including the latest version 720, the big issue is how to legally obtain the actual TT Navigator 7 software, if people purchase a map from TomTom I see nothing wrong other than they can expect no support from TomTom due to the software being installed to a non approved device.
I have asked for clarification from TomTom on this issue, but as yet no replies, if you cannot get the software from TomTom for this to work I cannot see how anyone can own this setup legally and expect support - map purchased or not - Mike |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SpeedCam
Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
Posts: 753
Location: Biggleswade, BEDS
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The sad thing is that even if TomTom do decide to release this version customers will be purchasing an out of date product. TT7 does run map versions 7.20 but latest maps are now 8.x.
Lets hope that TT7 that is shipping with the HTC Diamond is aimed as a free product as you are allowed one free city map download, maybe its designed as test product and a product to compete with Nokia maps.
What would make more sense is if TT8 is released and this supports the 8x maps, we also have to remember that TT7 was probably released to HTC some six months ago. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scotch_whisky
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 20, 2006
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
It would appear that the version of TomTom v7 floating around works on most HTC devices. I tried it on my O2 Orbit and it allowed me to download a local map from TomTom.
App version 7.450 (9028)
Map 'Dover' v715.1732
It all appeared to work perfectly. I have now gone back to v6 as I need all the UK.
It has always been said that the software is free and they only charge for the maps. I couldn't pluck up courage to buy the V7 map as I am only 99% certain that it will work and anyway I have no wish to be seen as a pirate!
I wouldn't "pirate" the map although it is tempting! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
gekko
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 01, 2005
Posts: 25
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
| SpeedCam wrote: | | The sad thing is that even if TomTom do decide to release this version customers will be purchasing an out of date product. TT7 does run map versions 7.20 but latest maps are now 8.x. |
Hardly.
The latest maps in the 8 series are 8.05.
The latest maps in the 7 series are 7.20.
They are all based on the same TeleAtlas data (2008.01). The only difference is that the 8 series maps support the new IQ Routes and Advanced Lane Guidance. The map data is otherwise identical. As the TTN7 does not support these two new features, it doesn't really matter if it is map series 7 or 8. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scotch_whisky
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 20, 2006
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Darren wrote: | Indeed, this is almost laughable. BUT, the pirated version isn't worth bothering with, it needs a lot of twiddling to work AND you'd still be stuck with v6 maps.
TomTom have been very foolish with this decision and it does nothing to reward loyal and honest customers of their PPC product platforms. |
This is not true for the HTC Artemis (aka O2 orbit) the pirated version installs without problems and offers to download a local map from TomTom. This it also does without problems.
I also don't think you are stuck with v6 maps. I suspect a purchased V7 would work.
I suspect that the "pirated" V7 software was designed to work with all recent HTC devices. People are having problems because they are trying to install the software on non HTC devices.
I am thinking of BUYING the V7 map and using it with the dodgy TomTom Navigator V7 software. Does this make me a pirate?
As I said in an earlier post. TomTom software has generally been thought of as free. It's only the maps you buy.
TomTom can have £30 from me for a V7 UK map or I find another package that will run on a PDA platform. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SpeedCam
Frequent Visitor
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
Posts: 753
Location: Biggleswade, BEDS
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| scotch_whisky wrote: | It would appear that the version of TomTom v7 floating around works on most HTC devices. I tried it on my O2 Orbit and it allowed me to download a local map from TomTom.
App version 7.450 (9028)
Map 'Dover' v715.1732
It all appeared to work perfectly. I have now gone back to v6 as I need all the UK.
It has always been said that the software is free and they only charge for the maps. I couldn't pluck up courage to buy the V7 map as I am only 99% certain that it will work and anyway I have no wish to be seen as a pirate!
I wouldn't "pirate" the map although it is tempting! |
If your v6 UK is a legal copy surely you can continue to use this with TT7, I haven't tried it but in the past application software has been backwardly compatible. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
divadiow
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 14, 2005
Posts: 30
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There are quite a few success stories of it working on non HTC and older windows mobile versions. There's also a modified version that has the resolution fixed for QVGA screens.
If still a grey area, it's quite interesting to see what can and is being done with the HTC TT7.
_________________
Fuji-Siemens Loox 420 WM2003SE -- TT 7 -- UK+IE 720 -- TT Bluetooth Sirf II -- 2GB SD |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
spangelsaregreat
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jun 24, 2005
Posts: 22
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi,
I can confirm that a newly purchased 720 map from Tom Tom works on an Artemis device with TT7.
I did post a thread on this but it got deleted by the mods.
However, this now seems open to discussion going by the threads above so I will post this now (mods feel free to delete this reply if it is deemed inappropriate).
Regards |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
scotch_whisky
Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 20, 2006
Posts: 48
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| spangelsaregreat wrote: | Hi,
I can confirm that a newly purchased 720 map from Tom Tom works on an Artemis device with TT7.
I did post a thread on this but it got deleted by the mods.
However, this now seems open to discussion going by the threads above so I will post this now (mods feel free to delete this reply if it is deemed inappropriate).
Regards |
Just purchased the 720 map myself and it works perfectly on the Artemis.
In response to another post - Yes V6 maps work as well but I didn't see much point in upgrading to V7 software without the new maps.
The mods can delete me as well if they like but I don't think I have done much wrong and TomTom are richer! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mikealder
Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005
Posts: 19638
Location: Blackpool , Lancs
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Why would we "delete" you when you are running an application that is free with a correctly paid for map, as has been said this is a grey area in terms of the application; but if TomTom have accepted your payment and activated the map you purchased then there is nothing wrong at all IMHO.
The Artemis is a decent device although I would check what applications and software can be moved to the storage card as the in built memory isn't too hot - if HTC had launched the Atermis with 192MB of RAM there wouldn't have been a need for the Diamond other than for the VGA screen - Mike |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
![]() Posted: Today Post subject: Pocket GPS Advertising |
|
|
We see you’re using an ad-blocker. We’re fine with that and won’t stop you visiting the site.
Have you considered making a donation towards website running costs?. Or you could disable your ad-blocker for this site. We think you’ll find our adverts are not overbearing!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
Forum FAQ
Search
Usergroups
Profile
Log in for private messages
Log in
