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Tom59 Lifetime Member
Joined: Aug 05, 2006 Posts: 407 Location: Alconbury - UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Licence saver? |
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I have just found this Licence Saver on a pop up page.
It is of no use to me, but someone out there may be glad of it! _________________ TT Go 720 (T)
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TT iPhone app
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TT iOS Go Mobile
V 1.1 Map: Western Europe 965.7248 |
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Feek Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 04, 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Englandshire.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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That's a nasty sales page with popups and stuff, I really wouldn't advise anyone to go there. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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A complete load of rubbish, save your money. If you ever need advice on a ticket, FPN etc, pop over to pepipoo.com. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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gardenshed Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Posts: 466
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I was told by a cop not to respond to the NIP, the reason being it is sent by normal post and it is the cops responsibility to prove to court beyond reasonable doubt you received it and as so much post go's missing and it is sent out by normal mail you wouldn't receive any follow up after the first warning letter which they would also have to prove that they delivered to you I would use this advice at your discretion and I look forward to Tommos response, and ofcourse I dont speed anyway |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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, use that advice at your peril! There is no such requirement to prove receipt, proof of postage is sufficient. An NIP has to be 'sent' within 14 days of the alleged commission of the offence. Even that isn't set in stone as the officer may have given you a verbal NIp at the scene. If that occurred then the time limit of 14 days does not apply.
Failure to respond to an NIP will result in prosecution for failing to provide driver details. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: |
Failure to respond to an NIP will result in prosecution for failing to provide driver details. |
So what happens if your NIP was really lost in the post and you did not receive it? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I think the procedure is to send another at 28 days if no response has been received. However legally, if it can be proved that the first NIP was 'sent' then that is sufficient, lost in the post is not a defence. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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253 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't going to get involved in this post, because there are so many other sites with advice,, 'loopholes' and procedure.
However for what it's worth, below is a quick cut and paste of exceptions that apply to the 14 day rule.
As for the "don't reply to a NIP" school of thought. This was first touted under the Human Rights Act, it has now been closed by legislation from what I was told. If you don't reply, then you can be summonsed for 'failing to notify details of keeper'.
Exceptions & Get Outs
a) No such notice is required if a full or provisional fixed penalty notice has been given or fixed under the Provisions of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988
b) A notice sent by post must be dispatched so that it would reach the driver within the 14 days within the ordinary course of the post. If this is the case then it will have been deemed to have been served even if it is delivered outside the 14 day period.
c) If there is an accident involving the vehicle in question, of which the driver is aware, then the police do not need to provide a Notice of Intended Prosecution.
d) Failure to comply is no bar where the police could not with reasonable diligence have ascertained the name and address of the accused in time for service of the summons or notice within the 14 day period, or the accused contributed to such failure. [These are our highlights - might apply for example if you drive a hire car, company car or you were not the registered keeper]
e) Service of a notice at the last known address of the accused will suffice for good service. _________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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gardenshed Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: |
An NIP has to be 'sent' within 14 days of the alleged commission of the offence. Even that isn't set in stone as the officer may have given you a verbal NIp at the scene. If that occurred then the time limit of 14 days does not apply. |
A notice sent by post must be dispatched so that it would reach the driver within the 14 days within the ordinary course of the post. If this is the case then it will have been deemed to have been served even if it is delivered outside the 14 day period actually.
still dont think that they have the ability to recheck every letter sent out, perhaps you should apply for a job with them |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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eh? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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