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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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No English version yet, but they have put some effort into a decent website to show off the 8110
http://www.navigon8110.com/
Have uploaded a few more pictures to the website. |
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portman Frequent Visitor
Joined: Nov 10, 2005 Posts: 435 Location: Dorset
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Lovely as it is i don't see anything on there that i don't get on my Garmin 310 or for that matter many other satnavs for sale at £100-130. I had the Tomtom 720 for a while but came to the same conclusion so sold it. _________________ Samsung Mega
Tomtom 500
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
Joined: 15/07/2003 22:59:27 Posts: 1050 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Difference |
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Thats except for Traffic, Text to Speech, Reality View, Lane Advisor, improved visuals in all modes, FM transmittor and Bluetooth
Lets not forget the best feature. Quaterly map updates for 2 years!
I guess it depends on occasional user, for which even a £79.99 unit like the Navman S30 will do a really great job at "getting you there" and you will love as your first unit
If you use it ever day, particularly for business, then you want to arrive stress free. On time. Features like TTS and Lane Advisor + the Always Up To Date Mapping pay for themselves for users like this, like me
I agree though, for others it may be overkill. A McDonalds or a good restaurant?
By the way jonandmarkuk, does the 8110 retain the mileage reporter of the 7110 units? |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 06, 2006 Posts: 832 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Difference |
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xtraseller wrote: |
By the way jonandmarkuk, does the 8110 retain the mileage reporter of the 7110 units? |
Not turned it on, but it does talk about a logbook which I think saves the route information in Excel or some other format so assume that includes mileage information
I may give it a try and see what happens, be interesting if it worked like the Phototrackr and can show the route back on a map.
BTW, just stuck an 8Gb SDHC (class 6) card in and the device seems happy with it. Bit overkill I know but I intend to load some MP3's on for longer trips. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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In response to an earlier question, I can confirm that TMC does work. If traffic information is received it tells you and the information comes up on screen. Shame it doesn't read the information out like the VM x980t used too. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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DaveMatthews Regular Visitor
Joined: Dec 25, 2004 Posts: 221
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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jonandmarkuk wrote: | In response to an earlier question, I can confirm that TMC does work. If traffic information is received it tells you and the information comes up on screen. |
Another stupid omission from the NavMan S90i is that, in the case of incidents which are causing tailbacks, the TMC functionalty does not tell you how long the delay is expected to be (eg 5 minutes, 30 minutes, three hours, etc). So you can't make a considered decision on whether to carry on or look for an alternate route. Does the 8110 give you that sort of info?
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't look to be honest, got told off for playing with the GPS in the house so had to put it away for now Will take a look later. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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DaveMatthews Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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jonandmarkuk wrote: | got told off for playing with the GPS in the house |
! Yes, I know what you mean!
Does the User Guide not give any illustrations of the TMC screens? (The downloadable "starter" guide doesn't)
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Have uploaded some screenshots of the TMC screens. It seems that it doesn't give information on how long the delay is but that could either be the data received or the fact I didn't have a route planned on the GPS which would be effected by the traffic information.
I'll also try to upload a picture from the web which does have a timer symbol on the same TMC screen which could be a delay prediction? But no other screens are given so not sure? _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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DaveMatthews Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks once again. Doesn't look so great, does it? The Summary screen only includes symbols, leaving stacks of unused space on the right-hand side where they could have placed narratives for each incident such as the location and a short description of the problem. (eg "Hendon to M1 J2 Interchange: queuing traffic for 2 miles"). Very poor use of screen space.
On the detail screen for each incident, there is a weird-looking grey and orange button in the top-right corner - any idea what that's for?
With regards to delay length info, perhaps TrafficMaster don't supply this as part of their data feed....?
Incidentally it looks like you *can* have a QWERTY keyboard layout - there are some screenshots here:
http://www.engadget.com/tag/8110/
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think the symbol you mean is the icon to bring up the map view of the data.
Don't know if it's any worse than other TMC implementations or worse. I suppose they are going for a cleaner look as if you are driving and have to pull over or ask someone else to look you may not want too much information.
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With regards to delay length info, perhaps TrafficMaster don't supply this as part of their data feed....? |
Maybe someone else on the forum can answer that. It would be handy if the information can give the delay info, as the screen icons for the German TMC makes it look like the unit could get delay information? _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
Joined: 15/07/2003 22:59:27 Posts: 1050 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Mount |
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I notice the power cable runs directly into the base of the mount - can you advise if a) the cable has plently of length to run to the front windscreen, and b) if its untidy because of this setup
I contacted Navigon because I would have liked a simpler mount for the wide window (as with my Navman) but they said this was the only one because TMC is built into the mount. They may make another version if they get enough call, they said
Your opinion would be appreciated! |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 06, 2006 Posts: 832 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Mount |
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The cable is nice and long and I haven't find much of an issue. The Yaris power connector is very low down in the car.
I will try to measure the cable for you.
I think it's tidier as you can run the cable down the dashboard rather than it hanging out the bottom of the unit.
If it's any help you do get a dashboard disk should you wish to mount it off the windscreen.
Personally I like the mount as you simply attach it by sliding a 'switch' around. The only downside is the flap to release the suction cup is placed at the bottom so can make it difficult to remove it, but it's not too much of an issue if you just get a fingernail under the suction cup at the top.
As for size the mount and cable easily fits in the top section glovebox in the Yaris. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: Lane Advisor |
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Sounds good
One more thing (last question I promise...!)
Does the Lane Advisor (not reality view) give information on lane for roundabouts etc. (I appreciate not all) or just when joining or leaving a motorway? |
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jonandmarkuk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lane Advisor |
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xtraseller wrote: | Sounds good
One more thing (last question I promise...!)
Does the Lane Advisor (not reality view) give information on lane for roundabouts etc. (I appreciate not all) or just when joining or leaving a motorway? |
So far I haven't really seen much of the lan assistant other than on routes I have tested on a motorway. I hope that this is simply down to the map data and will be expanded with the updates.
I have seen complaints in the TT forum about lack of lane info so I do think it's the map data more than anything.
I would really have to try and plot a route with roundabouts on it to know if the lane assistance comes up for them.
When I have seen the lane assistance on the test routes it does seem to give a reasonable indication of the lane needed and looks better than the old style arrows as it changes to match what should be the exact lane layout. _________________ Navigon 8450 LIVE |
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