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Limehouse Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jan 07, 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: Mobile Camera database - a waste of time? |
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Am I the only person who thinks that the mobile speed camera database(s) are a waste of time? Along my route to/from work, almost every layby is flagged as a mobile speed camera zone. This seems to be absolutely stupid and a waste of resources!
What I do now is to download the database as individual files for each type of camera and only install the Gatsos and Red Light cameras on my TomTom.
Does anyone else think the same way? |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well you can do this, depending on your Sat Nav. If you have the choice of using a Consolidated Database just download that one and delete the Mobile files.
Incidently i don't consider it a waste of time. Annoying at times, yes. Maybe a little over populated, yes, but not a waste of time.
The point of Mobile cameras is they might be there. If you remove them you get no warning and it could cost you....
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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As Mobiles are THE most likely site to catch out the unwary I value them and wouldn't consider being without them.
Likewise when we attempted a purge of non-verified cameras a few years back the furore that we received resulted in the creation of an additional Mobile file and the pMobiles came into existence much to our ever lasting displeasure.
However MaFt will be making an announcement on the new system with regards to Mobiles very soon which we hope will go some way to addressing the issue. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a TomTom or Garmin that allows the use of custom sounds with the alerts you can assign a "silent" sound to the mobiles. That way you get a visual alert but no audio alert. |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15155 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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DaveNN Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 06, 2007 Posts: 337 Location: Lancs
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile Camera database - a waste of time? |
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Limehouse wrote: | Am I the only person who thinks that the mobile speed camera database(s) are a waste of time? Along my route to/from work, almost every layby is flagged as a mobile speed camera zone. This seems to be absolutely stupid and a waste of resources!
What I do now is to download the database as individual files for each type of camera and only install the Gatsos and Red Light cameras on my TomTom.
Does anyone else think the same way? |
Mmmm, I take on board your comments..but would then ask what do you do when you get a warning?
You'll:-
1) Check your speed ...not a bad thing...most of the time.
2) Reduce your speed...if needs must.
3) Carry on regardless....
To me it's best to be disturbed for a milli second (my other half reckons I more than disturbed ) by a false alarm, than go into panic mode & spend the next month worrying if you passed that camera above the posted limit. _________________ Jaguar XF R Sport AWD
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john877 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 468
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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My personal opinion is that mobile warnings are not a waste of time !!!
Twice this week they have been on a route which I take !!! being local I roughly know were to expect them but somebody travelling into the area would not !!! they are there or there abouts on a regular basis.
I think you stand more chance of being caught with a mobile than a static camera
If it also just reminds you to watch your speed a little it is worth having them on your sat nav |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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john877 wrote: | Twice this week they have been on a route which I take !!! |
I hope that you have reported them to the database as 'Seen again' otherwise they may get purged and warn no one.
Personally I would sooner be warned of a camera that was not there rather than not be warned of a camera that was there |
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john877 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | john877 wrote: | Twice this week they have been on a route which I take !!! |
I hope that you have reported them to the database as 'Seen again' otherwise they may get purged and warn no one.
Personally I would sooner be warned of a camera that was not there rather than not be warned of a camera that was there |
Yes of course I did |
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trapper Regular Visitor
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Radlett, Hertfordshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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The Mobile and PMobile warnings can be a bit annoying, so on my TT I have these as a 'Ping' using the TT standard warnings, the others I have typed in the names. like GATSO CAMERA which TT repeats as KAKSA CAMRA
Having lived in my area for around 20 years and while travelling a route used lots of times when off went the 'Ping' I slowed a couple of MPH to 30 and just carried on, parked in a layby was a Police Camera Van partly hidden by a row of parked cars Now that was the first time I had seen one there and the first time I had used my new TT as I was playing with the setup of it, how lucky was I that time
By the same token on my way to work I get a ping when approaching a brow of a hill in a 30 limit, its just past a school and the traffic is usually doing 35~40. In the 25 years I have gone over that brow, 5 days a week I have never seen a camera there. But I have always made sure 30 was kept too on that bit. Even with boy racer up my tail pipe.
I will have a go at downloading individual speed zoned files, I thought that you had to set them up with the Bmp's each time you downloaded and had to reset the warning distances each time, however I think I read on here somewhere that you only have to do the Bmp's and distances once and just replace the camera files, is this right? I could then get my TT to say "KAKSA CAMRA TIRTY" if in a 30 zone etc..... |
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GerryC Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Limehouse - it's possible you have the distance warnings for mobiles up so high that you get warned more than really necessary for mobiles that are off your route. A suggestion is to use 200yds for every 10mph (ie double the suggestion for static cameras).
Also, you can choose to only be warned of cameras on your route. However, if you don't set a route, you won't get warned. Swings and roundabouts.
trapper wrote: | I will have a go at downloading individual speed zoned files, I thought that you had to set them up with the Bmp's each time you downloaded and had to reset the warning distances each time, however I think I read on here somewhere that you only have to do the Bmp's and distances once and just replace the camera files, is this right? I could then get my TT to say "KAKSA CAMRA TIRTY" if in a 30 zone etc..... |
Exactly right. Once you have set up the warnings, you can leave them set and just overwrite the OV2 files with those newly downloaded. What you want as a warning is entirely up to you. _________________ Gerry
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trapper Regular Visitor
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Radlett, Hertfordshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Gerry, This evening I downloaded the speed zoned files and have installed them on myTT730T, on the PGPSW instructions it recommends using their "Real voice alert packages" I have had a quick look but cannot find a reference to them, I have probably been too quick and missed the link, any clue as to where it may be?
It would be handy if TT put a single key entry for warning on route or off route, for example if you are on a route you could switch all your selected warnings on and only get real warnings, then switch to global (In range) when in MAP mode. |
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GerryC Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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trapper wrote: | on the PGPSW instructions it recommends using their "Real voice alert packages" I have had a quick look but cannot find a reference to them, I have probably been too quick and missed the link, any clue as to where it may be? |
I think you must have missed the link (see the word "here" below.
Quote: | Here you can choose your preference for alert, you can if you wish use one of our .ogg file real voice packages available here |
I've suggested and been completely ignored that there should be options for when you are on a route (all nearby, only those on route or none) and when there isn't a route set (all nearby or none). Sounds simple to me.
Warnings have nothing to do with what's shown on the map. _________________ Gerry
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trapper Regular Visitor
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Radlett, Hertfordshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks again,
Gerry wrote:
Quote: | I think you must have missed the link (see the word "here" below. Wink
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Here you can choose your preference for alert, you can if you wish use one of our .ogg file real voice packages available here |
I was looking at my print out in full glorious black and white I didn't spot the underline on here, my eyesight is not as hot as it once was |
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