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Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: Copying onto new SD card
I have TomTom One v2 Europe, which almost completely fills the supplied 1 GB card. To allow a little more headroom, and to allow some spare space for POIs, I bought a new 2 GB card. I made a copy of the contents of the original card (making sure that I had selected Show hidden files and folders). I then pasted this to the new SD card, having first formatted the card. Putting this into TomTom one, it started up OK (with the drum beat, followed by the Legal Notice giving the conditions, to which you have to click I agree) but then I got a screen saying No maps found. Looking at the contents of the card, the Western Europe folder is there, apparently with all the same files as the original. Replacing the original TomTom card it works fine.
Any ideas?
Ro bin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Feb 19, 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject:
Do you know the speed of your new SD card. I had a problem when I copied files to a new SD. When I started up the GPS Unit (Go 710), it hung for a while and then the screen went blank. I repeated to procedure using a fast card (150x) and it worked fine.
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:59 am Post subject:
The label says Hi Speed and the web site of the firm from which I bought it says 133x
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:27 am Post subject:
Why did you reformat it? They come ready to go.
I suspect that has something to do with it, as although it shouldn't make any difference, it has cropped up as an issue in the forums more than once before. Can only suggest you now try reformatting again in a different way.
Doing it in a digital camera has been mentioned in the past as having worked.
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject:
I am now even more puzzled. I deleted everything from the card and started again, but this time, instead of copying from the present contents of my 1GB card, I copied the files from the original backup which I did when I bought TomTom One last September (using TomTom Home). This time the device worked from the 2 GB card, and I tested it out navigating a couple of short journeys.
I didn't have the PGPSW safety cameras on that backup, so I attempted to load the database into the Western Europe map folder, using the speed zoned version. Some of the files loaded, but some would not, throwing up either , for example, "Cannot copy UK Gatso 30: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error" or, in another case, "Cannot copy uk mobile 50. The parameter is incorrect". One or other of these error messages came up for about half a dozen of the 24 files, but others copied correctly into the map folder.
I tried with an older version of the database, with the same result.
Finally I tried a different database, which was not speed zoned, but again I could not load it.
In each case, the method used was identical to the way I always do it with the original TomTom card, ie unzip the ov2 and bmp files and copy directly into the relevant map folder.
So although I now have a working version of TomTom on the 2GB card, I can't run the safety camera warnings, which effectively rules it out!
Can anyone who knows a lot more about these things than me offer any suggestions?
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject:
Robin, the only time I have seen this behaviour (once) I deleted the existing ov2 and bmp files from the map folder, downloaded and extracted the files from the download before copying the files to the map folder and it worked (corupt download file that me head scratching for a while).
It could be the card has a duff memory location, but difficult to say.
Have you tried removing the cameras and installing some other POI files? do you get the same result. Mike
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:
Yes Mike, I had the same message when I tried to load an old POI file of Caravan Club sites.
The PGPSW database was not corrupt, because I have just successfully loaded it onto my original TomTom 1GB SD card, updating the December database which was originally there.
It's very strange, since TomTom seems to work perfectly well from the 2GB card, with instructions coming up in good time. It's just that I can't load the database into the map folder.
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Feb 19, 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject:
Robin,
Another thought. Are you using TomTom HOME? I made a back-up SD card today by backing up my current files from my Go 710 to my laptop using Home. I then did a restore (using Home) to the new SD card (2GB 150x) via a card reader. During the restore process, I was asked what device the "volume" SD card was (with a selection of all the TomTom devices). I selected Go 710 and let it make the copy. I plugged it inito the 710 and it worked fine.
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject:
This sort of situation does seem to crop up occasionally on the forums. People who know what they are doing with copying/pasting, just cannot seem to get a particular card to work. When they do exactly the same thing with a different card, it all works first time!
Afraid it's your decision, how much effort you want to put in, trying to get it working on this card. Might be quicker in the long run to risk the expense of starting again with a new one.
I can vouch for SanDisk cards. Have always worked for me, (without formatting!)
when you "started again" did you re-format again? If so, how?
Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:01 am Post subject:
I am posting this in case it is of help to others who may want to use a larger card than the one supplied by TomTom. As described earlier, I first tried making a copy of my original card, then pasting this onto the new card. It didn't work, and however I tried to do it, I wasn't able to add the PGPSW safety camera database to the map folder.
How I eventually sorted it was simple. With the original 1GB card, I used TomTom Home to make a backup. Then I replaced the 1GB card with my new 2GB card and, still using TomTom Home, restored to the most recent stored backup, ignoring warnings that it appeared to be a different device. The whole process took much longer than using my card reader, BUT IT WORKED! I now have a fully functional version of TomTom, complete with all my POIs, working from the new 2GB card.
Other people have had success by copying and pasting using a card reader, but it wouldn't work for me. But the much maligned TomTom Home came up trumps
Robin _________________ TomTom One v3 Europe, Navcore 7.903, Western Europe 835.2420
TomTom Go 720 Europe, Navcore 8.351, Western Europe 855.2884
Satmap Active 10
Plus a lot of other PDA GPS kit, seldom used
Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Posts: 368 Location: Kettering, Northants, England
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject:
Just as an aside
Can you help me --- what is the largest card you can use in Tom-Tom GO-- I have the Classic and at the moment it is working fine with a 2GB card..
I want to download the latest maps but I have been told via Tom-Tom Home -- that there is not enough space and I should delete some stuff... which I am loath to do..
So I thought that I might get a larger card -- say a 4Gb -- do these work in TT Classic??
What special type of card would be required?
Maurice _________________ Happy to meet -- Sorry to part -- Happy to meet again
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject:
This seems to be the week for year-old topics resurfacing!
Better to start again, or preferably look at one of the many other topics where this has been asked.
For all TTs other than the 520/720/920, you can only use standard SD cards.
The 520/720/920 can use SDHC cards.
Normal cards usually go up to 2GB but there are a few NON-sdhc cards that are 4GB (most ARE SDHC).
I'm not allowed to suggest you do a forum search for "SDHC" to find the brand names (it would break my New Year's resolution! )
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