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dynamite Occasional Visitor

Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Hi All,
Thanks to help from psionman, I can now announce that a new database has been built and placed on the web site. It contains 2,264,992 post codes which is around 600,000 more than the previous version, which should address most of the missing code issues reported. I've checked all the ones that I've had reported missing to me and they're all in the database.
Download the new file from:
http://www.digitools.co.uk/downloads/ukpostcode/download.php
Note that the unpacked database file has grown from 12.8MB to 17.2MB, so if youre short of space on your storage card it may no longer fit. I am working on compressing this further for future versions.
- Niels |
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Darren Frequent Visitor

Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Niels, do you have any plans to attend our proposed GPS Meet on 28th March (date is still tentative)?
I ask because you are owed a great many  _________________ Darren Griffin |
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ttrevor Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 04, 2003 Posts: 540 Location: Sleaford Lincolnshire UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Niels for updates ,all downloaded
many thanks
trevor _________________ Iphone x 64gb IOS 11.3.1 / IPhone 6 Plus 32gb IOS 12 beta /Volkswagen Scirocco R 280 bhp /Suzuki Vitara swb vvt+ /Suzuki Jimny special/running Apple Mac Mini / Apple air/ iPhone x /6 plus navigation / Apple car-play |
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dynamite Occasional Visitor

Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Darren,
I'd love to, but the suggested location (M4 corridor as far as I remember) is just a bit too far away from here, I think. Unless I can manage to arrange a business meeting in the area on that date, of course!
I appreciate the gesture though.
- Niels |
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PeterJD Occasional Visitor

Joined: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 11 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Dynamite.
I've just copied over the new ukpostcode.dat file to my PDA.
Curiously, Show on Map is displaying different map positions for postcodes that were in the old database. The difference seems to be about 100m or so. |
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Talkingbollox Frequent Visitor

Joined: 14/10/2002 15:11:34 Posts: 439 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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PeterJD wrote: |
Curiously, Show on Map is displaying different map positions for postcodes that were in the old database. The difference seems to be about 100m or so. |
Now you've mentioned it, this seems to be the case. There does seem to be some offset compared to the orginal database. I end up on the next Close using my own postcode. |
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dynamite Occasional Visitor

Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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You are of course right - rather than merging the databases, I built the new database entirely from data based on OS grid references with a 100m resolution. Strangely enough, some postcodes are more accurate using the new database, but I guess others might suffer.
My personal postcode is spot-on using the new database, and was 100m away on the old database (there are only eight houses sharing the postcode so I know where it should be).
- Niels |
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Robin2 Lifetime Member

Joined: Nov 24, 2003 Posts: 1441 Location: Swansea
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed the same offset on the latest version. If I enter my own postcode, it puts me in the next street - about 75 yards west of where it should be
Robin
(I also downloaded the new ukpostcode.exe) |
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Nick412 Regular Visitor

Joined: Feb 18, 2004 Posts: 106 Location: UK,Leeds
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi All,
Is the 100m position bug/error going to be fixed>? (if so ill wait to download the updated file etc)
If not i think ill keep existing one.
Regards
Nick _________________ Dell Axim X5 400MHZ - 128 CF Card - 256 SD Card - Rikaline 6010 TTNV2 (UK+Europe) - Checkpoint 2.02 - PPC 2002
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dynamite Occasional Visitor

Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it is being looked at right now. It occurred to me that using 100m OS grid refs would place the codes, on average, 50 metres south-west of the correct location, so I am just building a database with a 50 metre correction factor added. I'll report back when I have news...
- Niels |
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dynamite Occasional Visitor

Joined: Feb 09, 2004 Posts: 45 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmm....
Not too easy to fix, I'm afraid. The OS references are just not that accurate, it appears. I've found a large number of nearby postcodes that have the same OS reference, so I think I may have to have a rethink on this. For the moment, I will remove the new database from my site until I've come up with a solution.
Sorry about the trouble, guys.
- Niels |
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lostnfound Occasional Visitor

Joined: Sep 25, 2003 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Could you keep the old database, but add to it any entries from the new one that don't already exist in the old one? That way you'd keep the better accuracy of the old one but add missing postcodes. Better for a code to be 75 yards out than not there at all. |
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TheBoffin Occasional Visitor

Joined: Dec 10, 2003 Posts: 10 Location: Portsmouth
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Carll,
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I had the same problem, and have the same setup of a Dell Axim X5 etc. In the end I installed CheckPOInt and then just copied the two main files accross to my CF card. Worked like a treat after that.
Great software, wish TT would learn from this.
My only comment is the installation is not fool proof. |
I've had checkpoint installed on my Axim for ages now, have been using v3.2 for some time now with no problems.
So unless theres some sort of compatability issue between versions of checkpoint and ukpostcode, i've still no idea what the problem is.
Brian --- please anyone who can help, would be most welcome!! |
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psionman Regular Visitor

Joined: Dec 23, 2003 Posts: 62 Location: Nottingham (UK)
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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lostnfound wrote: | Could you keep the old database, but add to it any entries from the new one that don't already exist in the old one? That way you'd keep the better accuracy of the old one but add missing postcodes. Better for a code to be 75 yards out than not there at all. |
Hi Neils
I agree with lostnfound. couldn't you just add the postcodes 'missing' from your original with the ones on the 'new' database That way we have the best of both worlds |
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psionman Regular Visitor

Joined: Dec 23, 2003 Posts: 62 Location: Nottingham (UK)
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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One other point occurs on the accuracy of postcodes: some postcodes are large and the 100m precision won't matter too much. The 'centre' of the postcode might not even be on a street! |
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