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z288171 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 24 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: Looking for new gps for off road m/bike with os style maps |
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Im looking for a gps (any make) for the trials bike to be able to have maps loaded to at least 50,000 OS for looking for byways etc in southern UK. Rather it be colour and memory card usable.
Any ideas?
Ben. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ben, why not think about a PDA loaded with Memory Map (OS maps at either 1:50K or 1:25K scale), put the PDA in an OtterBox to keep it safe and water proof, this can attach to the bike via a RAM mount, there are a few links to keep you busy looking at possibilities - Mike |
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z288171 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 24 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have a pda with the gps and maps but dont think it will cope with the rigors of off roading, and battery life wont last.
I have looked at Garmins and Magellans but their maps dont look that detailed for what I want, basically I want a gps with a either 1:50K or 1:25K OS style detail of map.
Ben. |
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philpugh Lifetime Member
Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 2003 Location: Antrobus, Cheshire
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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There's a device called SatMap that might fit your needs. Have a look at a brief description Here _________________ Phil |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Looking for new gps for off road m/bike with os style ma |
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z288171 wrote: | Im looking for a gps (any make) for the trials bike to be able to have maps loaded to at least 50,000 OS for looking for byways etc in southern UK. Rather it be colour and memory card usable.
Any ideas?
Ben. |
As you've found, both Garmin and TomTom's motorbike offerings are no good as they lack OS Support. The Road Angel 7000 has Memory-Map may fit the bill but we haven't had an opportunity yet to evaluate one yet. It has road navigation as well which may be a benefit for use in your car or may not!
SatMap is a new product, very well received, works superbly with long battery life etc and may be ideal but it's expensive.
Finally, a PocketPC as MikeAlder has suggested. Secured in an Otterbox (you can get them with handlebar mounts , I have one) would also work. It would depend on how long you required them to run on battery? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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z288171 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 24 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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The SATMAP active 10 device does look interesting, I did try registering but looks like their site is now working.
They are only a few miles from me anyway.
Will have to try again later. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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The NEC report contained a small snipit of the main page which you may or may not have followed the links to Here This device certainly has great potential and we await its arrival to the market place with interest - Mike |
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7andy Regular Visitor
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'll tell you what - try keeping your M/C off these 'Green Roads'. The number of times I've had a day ruined by some inconsiderate 'nob' roaring through the countryside exercising his/her 'right' is beyond count....
The heaviest traffic they were designed for was a horse, not some supercharged high Horse Power monster. These awful 'scrambler' motorcycles do nothing but chew up the surface, leaving it rutted and muddy for walkers to try and get round.
/Rant over... |
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alix776 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 03/05/2003 14:45:49 Posts: 3999 Location: leyland lancs ENGLAND
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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its ok andy ill follow him on my moutnain bike and my sister on here horse just pt you blood pressure through the roof _________________ currently using aponia truck navigation on windows phone. Good bye IOS don't let the door hit you on the way out .
Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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7andy wrote: | I'll tell you what - try keeping your M/C off these 'Green Roads'. The number of times I've had a day ruined by some inconsiderate 'nob' roaring through the countryside exercising his/her 'right' is beyond count....
The heaviest traffic they were designed for was a horse, not some supercharged high Horse Power monster. These awful 'scrambler' motorcycles do nothing but chew up the surface, leaving it rutted and muddy for walkers to try and get round.
/Rant over... |
Let's not go there please. They have as much right to use a Byway that has vehicular rights as anyone else so long as it is classified as a BOAT. BOAT's make up a tiny percentage of the network of Green Lanes and if you honestly think a horse does less damage then you're deluded.
I have no wish to debate this further here, there are plenty of websites dedicated to that purpose, any repetition of those kind of comments here will result in your posts being removed. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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robertn Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Depends what you are after. I use a PDA/GPS while mountain biking, but have it turned off most of the time, only pull it out when stopped and want to know where I am.
I also have used a Bluetooth GPS/datalogger, so I get the trails maps of where I have been etc, with my short battery life PDA tucked away nice and safe till I need it. By the time you have forked out for a PDA, Otter box and MMap, the PDA solution gets expensive, but you can use at for other stuff.
If you want access to it all the time you are riding, then a PDA won't cut it, they are just too fragile and too short battery life. You would need a dedicated rugged device - check out garmin Cx60 series, or enven mor reliable, a paper map.
On advatage of having the device on you (in a pocket or backpack), rather than the bike, is the human body makes a great shockabsorber, so it gets a "soft" ride compared to fueltank/handle bar mounted devices, just don't crash out and land on it .
If all you want to to see where you went, when you get home, a Datalogger GPS is the way to go. Whatever solutuoon you choose, make sure you can load tracks into Memory Map once you get home. |
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7andy Regular Visitor
Joined: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 74
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | 7andy wrote: | I'll tell you what - try keeping your M/C off these 'Green Roads'. The number of times I've had a day ruined by some inconsiderate 'nob' roaring through the countryside exercising his/her 'right' is beyond count....
The heaviest traffic they were designed for was a horse, not some supercharged high Horse Power monster. These awful 'scrambler' motorcycles do nothing but chew up the surface, leaving it rutted and muddy for walkers to try and get round.
/Rant over... |
Let's not go there please. They have as much right to use a Byway that has vehicular rights as anyone else so long as it is classified as a BOAT. BOAT's make up a tiny percentage of the network of Green Lanes and if you honestly think a horse does less damage then you're deluded.
I have no wish to debate this further here, there are plenty of websites dedicated to that purpose, any repetition of those kind of comments here will result in your posts being removed. |
Well, trod on a tender spot there, didn't I?? I've seen a lot worse language used on here when people get a little stirred up, but hey, you're a Mod - so I'll do the good thing and shut up...
Cheers, 7&Y |
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z288171 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 24 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately the PDA thing wont be any good due to battery life. I have memory map on it and yes it would be fine but not sure about the vibrations though.
I got an email back from SatMap and does look good so will wait and see for that one.
And just a reply to 7andy, we are fully legal in what we do and are considerate to anyone we come across and also for horses.
As per usual, the Ramblers Association militants always tar with the same brush.
We do not roar through the countryside like some "nob" as you say and I wont reply in like as its not worth it.
And if you must know, its the 4X4s that rut the lanes, not the bikes. Go done one that 4x4s cant get down due to width, and you wont see ruts.
Thats the lot I will say one this matter. |
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7andy Regular Visitor
Joined: Jul 02, 2005 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thankyou for your thoughts, z288171, I must live in a different part of the the country then!!
Cheers, and have a good day.
7&Y |
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