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weelogic Regular Visitor
Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: South of Glasgow, West of Scotland
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that car speedos are REQUIRED to read a certain percentage over the true, in accordance with some European directive. It sounds bizarre, but the comment about it trying to slow us down is correct. In various cars over the past 3 years I have noticed that TT is running about 10% less than my speedo recording, and I don't think that's a coincidence! |
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Dec 08, 2004 Posts: 10642 Location: Suffolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Get a new Honda and it's only 1 or 2 mph out all the way to 70.;) _________________ Richard
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 810 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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As I said way back on this topic, why are so many users nearly having a climax because they will be able to see the speed on Tomtom? _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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linknet Frequent Visitor
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MrT Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Trevor1234 wrote: | As I said way back on this topic, why are so many users nearly having a climax because they will be able to see the speed on Tomtom? |
Maybe because TomTom is giving something back they took away in their "advance" from TT3 to TT5?
I wonder how many usefull features they will delete this time? |
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neil01 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree with Trevor.
With such a limited display area, I can think of much better uses for it (and the processing power and memory used). Even just making all the other information clearer would be preferable.
There is such a thing as 'information overload' too. |
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eillo7 Regular Visitor
Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 199
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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MrT wrote: |
I wonder how many usefull features they will delete this time? |
I've found one already - remember the jerky display whenever you switched on POIs? The solution in v5 was to hide POIs and the display scrolled much more smoothly.
In v6 there is no longer an option to show/hide POI (not that I can see anyway). You can still enable/disable individual POIs, but even with them all disabled the display still jerks. |
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor
Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 810 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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And also agree with neil01.
I usually use Tomtom in a Transit with the PDA fixed to the screen. Some of the information displayed such as Estimated Time Of Arrival etc is a little on the small side and is rather difficult to read when given a quick glance whilst driving in heavy traffic. I would certainly regard that kind of information far more important than the display showing my vehicle speed, as my vehicle speed is shown quite clearly on my Speedo.
I know that its not possible to please everyone about the extras added and the bits taken away when an upgrade takes place but as far as I am concerned the ‘Show Speed’ option is of no importance at all. _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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alan_sh Lifetime Member
Joined: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 545 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Don't you guys speed then? 200kph is 125 mph - easy to do on most big motorcycles..... |
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dannyoneill Regular Visitor
Joined: May 08, 2005 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Trevor. I turn off the info I dont need such as speed, remaining distance and current time, the remaining items will then display larger.
Remaining distance I Think is a bit of a waste as I just care about what time I will get there _________________ Visit Wayfinder Life for all your Wayfinder Navigator needs |
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Quantum Frequent Visitor
Joined: 16/02/2003 03:21:58 Posts: 285 Location: Seattle, Ecotopia
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I like Remaining Distance and Time, but have no use for Speed as I have one of them handy things called a speedometer. My 4700 is in a Brodit cradle in front of the tach, and so is shaded from the sun, handy to use, and easy to remove/stow in high-theft areas. (swivel the cradle)
I would very much like to have Altitude on the TT screen though. My iTrek M5 wavers in altitude by about ten feet, even with WAAS, but this is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. I can tell whether I'm at 100ft or 3,000ft. |
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Private Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Quantum:
I like..., but have no use for Speed as I have one of them handy things called a speedometer.
Good God Man! You actually have a speedometer?! You must be driving one of these new cars with doors and windows! Does it have an engine as well? Damn your lucky!
I'm kidding or course, but I confess I laughed so hard when I read your above comment !! - It's nice to start off a Monday with a laugh! |
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Private Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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linknet:
It would be nice to see improved routing and the ability to avoid minor roads in order to prevent this sort of thing happening:
I think you are right. In the past TT has led me down some really strage roads in Portugal and Spain (from narrow dirt roads to "horse and buggy trails"!!) and if like me, you're crazy enough to take them, your in for some bad suprises!!! |
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neil01 Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 902 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes I think that features are added or taken away by marketing men rather than after thought about what is and what is rnot equired.
Unfortunately, we seem to live in a time where hype and spin, rather than common sense prevail.
If only people would get back to what a SatNav is for, which unless I am mistaken, it is to get you from A to B (often via intermediate locations) using a sensible route, I think that we may actually end up with a great product.
Yes, we have units which will tell you your speed, your altitude, play music, give you thousands of points of interest (many out of date) and all manner of other non-essential extras; but are these (increasing number of) features simply there to mask the fact that the reason for buying the thing in the first place - NAVIGATION, is so often barely adequate?
Although TomTom is not my choice of preference, I am well aware that they are the market leader, and what they do will influence the other manufacturers; so I am hoping that the next release of TomTom will see real improvements to the core product, rather than just more 'bloatware'. |
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linknet Frequent Visitor
Joined: May 05, 2005 Posts: 872
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Private wrote: | I think you are right. In the past TT has led me down some really strage roads in Portugal and Spain (from narrow dirt roads to "horse and buggy trails"!!) and if like me, you're crazy enough to take them, your in for some bad suprises!!! |
If you are in an unfamiliar area you have no idea as to the suitability of the road you are being directed down. You don't have to be crazy, you just follow the routing and turn down the road as directed which initially looks fine. Then it gets narrower and you find yourself in the situation where it's too narrow to turn round and just go a bit further in the hope it improves. But it doesn't.
And if anyone comes up with the suggestion to check the route with a map then please don't. Having paid around £300 for a device I expect it to be better than a £5 map. It's about time TomTom and their mapping cronies, TeleAtlas, got their act in order.
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