Auto theft prevention ideas

BunnyBallerina · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 21, 2005 Posts: 37

[quote="tonys66"]Ash10 wrote:

The new TomToms ask for a PIN if you set one
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good idea but i am still astounded at the number of sat navs left on display in out local asda

What's the point of security if you leave it displayed

OK some systems make it more difficult but the cost of new glass is probably more than the TT

mrg2003 · Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: protection

>Explain how you can modify the INSIDE of a chip in order to bypass a hard wired security mechanism?

If you look at the experience of Xbox, Playstation, Sky Box, chips that act as an abstration layer are fairly easy to produce. It is difficult to build a secure system, when all the security is in the same place, and the the user/attacker has unlimited time to mount his attack. It is possible if you consider military grade systems, but there is a huge cost implication, and secure management of the key material, using smart cards, whose license fee would be many times the cost of the unit.

The best way to avoid theft is to remove the threat, by removing the unit, taking sensible precautions and have specific insurance. But if the value of the unit after depreciation is only a few hours wages, then it is often better to simply replace it.
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NickG · Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: Re: protection

kevpol · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 26, 2005 Posts: 15

I have a postcard sized leaflet with pretty badges that you can print and display. (unfortunately i cant upload it onto the web)

email or PM and I will forward it to you.
Kevin.brown@bedfordshire.police.uk

POLICE NOTICE

MY GPS satnav AND ALL PORTABLE ITEMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE VEHICLE.

ALL ITEMS HAVE BEEN REGISTERED ON WWW.IMMOBILISE.COM

oldfogy · Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: anti theft sticker ?

kevpol · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 26, 2005 Posts: 15

If you dont wish to leave your address - then dont.

The website uses government encryption standards which your average burglar wont have the time interest or knowledge to bother with.

If you actually look on the MEND list (the police list) you will find details for a lot of police officers. The national mobile phone crime unit and the managing director of the company that hosts the website......

Whtever method you use to obscure your address be that only giving email or work details etc PLEASE use the site.

Last week alone we identified and charged 3 robberies on the result of a blind search. :D

oldfogy · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: immobilise.com

Merlin2005 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 39

What about the manufacturers ading a simple, dongle type device that uses an encrypted key to activate the unit? All the legitimate user has to do is remove the dongle and it's a paperweight. If the dongle is paired to only one device (like bluetooth, only no wireless) with 128 bit encryption, who is going to spend the time trying to crack a stolen unit and reverse engineer a dongle?

If the legitimate owner loses the dongle, no problem, they contact the maker with a card supplied with the dongle which has a unique ID code. Without that code and user ID details like you would have to give for your credit card, no new dongle in the post.

The dongle could even fit on the owner's key ring and use induction to passs it's code to the GPS unit in a way similar to coded car keys. Add that opening the case would disable the unit completely and that's all folks...

Watch everyone diss this idea now..........

PaulB2005 · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject:

and then you loose your keys and the dongle too. Or it breaks in your pocket...

Why not just take the sat nav with you? Even with the dongle thieves who don't know or care about the dongle feature will still nick the sat nav only to find it useless. In which case you've still lost it and have to make a claim, buy a new one, get the window fixed etc etc

Just don't leave it in the car. It really is that easy...

There seems to be a mind set that if you add enough deterrents (dongles, passwords, PINs etc) thieves will stop and think about what they are nicking. Most won't. They nick because the opportunity presents itself and they have a chance. If they later find the item useless it's no skin off their nose - and an arse-ache for the owner. They'd happily nick 5 or 6 and find one useful item that worry about working which one of the 5 or 6 to nick because it has less security features.

GJF · Frequent Visitor Joined: Feb 08, 2007 Posts: 894

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