Re: CP6 patch and the safety camera databases

Searcher22 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 49

Hi All

In the pdf about the patch it refers only to the single file database & the modes you need to make to the file name(s).

Has anyone (successfully) used either the "camera type" or "speed related" databases. These having many files instead of just the 2 for the single file database and by their very nature appropriate file names that would also need amending. But what amendments and has it worked AOK?

TIA Smile

matt1971

neil01 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject:

As you rightly note, the new recommended method does not give any indication as to type of camera. The applicable speed limit is displayed in the overlayed yellow warning box though.

I have done a little tinkering, and think that for the new system to work, only the start of the name needs to be 'safteycamera'. So I am trying renaming the files with the cameras grouped by type (not by type and speed - which for some reason do not load correctly on my system - with some of the files not being incorporated, and white boxes rather than icons being shown on the map) I renamed the files to safetycamera_redlight.bmp and safetycamera_redlight.ov2 with similar renaming for the other files.

While I still do not get any indication of camera type in the spoken instructions, I do get an appropriate icon on the map, which is now displayed with the small yellow overlay warning box instead of the 'blue warning screen' during the warning period. Note, it looks as if the map is displayed even when you are in driver safey mode, but if you are in driver safety mode, the map (when it is displayed) in not 'where am I', but 'next turn' with its variable scale, so if the 'next turn' is some way off, the scale can be too small for the icons to be displayed at all. (They are not displayed at the smaller scales)

If you try this, proceed with care, there may be other issues to consider if you use this method. So far I have only tested it using the built in CoPilot demo.

One unusual thing of note - the camera warning is spoken by Jane (wave), even when you set Roger (TTS) as the voice - and they can both speak at the same time! Perhaps someone knows of a suitable 'chime' to replace Jane's warning message.

starion · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 8

I have just updated my CP6 with the latest patch v6.0.1.68 and the install went fine, however I no longer get speed camera alerts!

Have I done something wrong?

I already had two speed camera files in my storage card/save folder called (speedcams.ov2 and speedcams.bmp) at no point in the upgrade did i have to go near them. Once the upgade had completed however I renamed them to (safetycamera.ov2 & safetycamera.bmp) as instucted.
I also got the long delay when CP6 started but I saw no message about loading POI/Safety cameras.

Any of you more experienced users got any ideas.

I also seem to have the TTS/WAV issues some other have.

Thanks

Starion

neil01 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject:

Did you download the ALK instructions in addition to the patch files, and delete any AO*.* files as per those instructions?

Both .pdf files, one for ActiveSync, and the other for a card reader.

starion · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 8

Hi neil01

Short answer is yes! I only downloaded the pdf pertaining to Card Reader style updating.

I no longer had any of the AO* files (I adopted the newer way of loading safety cameras which seemed not to require those AO* files)
so I removed them a while ago.

Do I need to remove the existing safety camera files...Load up CP6....close it down....recopy them to the save folder...and restart CP6.

A colleague suggested this! (seems a bit of a long shot)

matt1971 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject:

neil01 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject:

If as you say that you no longer have the AO*.* files, I think that something may have gone very wrong with your installation, and you may have to start again from scratch.

Even if you have deleted the files, I think that they will simply be re-created (but without the POI data). When you have the .ov2 and matching .bmp files in the save directory when you launch CoPilot; it is into the those AO*.* files to which the information is incorporated. That is why you delete them each time you want to load new data.

Once susessfully incorporated, the ov2 and bmp files will be deleted, so if they are still there - something has gone wrong. Unfortunately, as I am only just starting to get my head around the new (to CoPilot) ov2 method, I haven't got a clue what that something could be.

However, from past experience, it seems to be difficult (impossible?) to fix CoPilot when it gets messed up. Certainly, in my experience, the better option seems to be to start again. In fact since I have got installing CoPilot how I like it to around half an hour, so in the majority of situations reinstallation is the quicker (and undoubtably more satisfactory) option.

starion · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 8

I am not all that sure what you mean.

Are you saying that I should recreate my DATASET??

I followed the upgrade pdf to the letter (hopefully) and it didn't mention recreating the MAP DATASET.

For some unknown reason my CP6 is failing to recognise the two safety camera files currently residing on my storage card.

These files incidentally were used yesterday morning without incident!.

I might as well get my call into ALK support. Sad

neil01 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:

matt1971 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject:

Hi,

As per my response in the upgrade thread - this is exactly what i have done!!

I thought my Copilot had messed up (it hadnt but i didnt realise this at the time) and this is what I did:

Uninstalled both from PC and PPC - delete any redundant directories.
Installed to PC and PPC from the original CD's.
Use the data download wizard which not only recreates the map data but also the SAVE and SPEECH directories.
Uninstall PPC - do not delete any of the redundant files.
Unzip the patch EXE for PPC.
Copy across the 2577 and copilot directories from the quickstart directory.
Say yes to any files that need overwriting
Let the autorun...erm....run
Save the safety camera files (ov2 and bmp) to the copilot\save directory.
Next launch of Copilot it will tell you that it is integrating updates and then you should have the new dB's loaded.

Hope this helps....no wonder it took me all of last night to get it all working. (TTS still doesnt work without testing the speech first though...but thats another story)

Matt

starion · Occasional Visitor Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 8

Hi neil01,matt1971

I will try a full deinstall reinstall and let you guys know how I get on.

Hopefully it should all spring to life!

Thanks for your efforts

Starion. 8O

neil01 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:

matt1971 · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Thats what I did at first but it never worked for me - hence going back to the drawing board.

I agree that it should work as you say.

Matt

Searcher22 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 49

I have the Loox N560 and up until using the patch my CP6 and the PPC has been well behaved.

But following patching this morning and adding the safety camera database about 3 hours into my journey I got a "Memory low critical" warning - checking the 'storage memory' it was indeed critical. Made me think of the equivalent of a memory leak in Win98se.

However, I found that the PPC had locked up - woud not suspend/resume - would not soft boot - would cold boot ~ whatever I do I get the memory warning. From what I can recall I had approx 30MB free space before the CP patch installation.

It does look like I am going need to do a factory reset Crying or Very sad

If this is indeed a CP6 patch related issue, I wonder what is different compared to the old CP6?

Do you know if CP6 can be installed to the SD memory card instead of the 'device'? I hope so because that is 2GB and I have plenty of space. With my various other programs, I have where possible installed them to the SD card unless like CFv2 it is system related which I installed to the device ~ also I think I put Pocket Plus on the device memory together with Magic Button....!

TIA Smile

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