New Law (BILL) - radar speed detectors inside cars/use of

TartanGiant

So now it seems we cannot have a radar speed-detection warning device! What next - driving whilst in charge of an apple?

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmbills/113/en/06113x--.htm

Speeding

5. The Bill provides for graduated fixed penalties for speeding and increases the range of penalty points available for those offences. The fitting to or use of a vehicle carrying speed assessment equipment detection devices will be prohibited by means of regulations and a regulation-making power is given to the Secretary of State to enable him to grant exemptions from speed limits.
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Tom Tom devices will next! Bloody government sods.

TG

Darren · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:34 am Post subject:

That's the re-incarnated Road Safety Bill whicl will ban radar and laser detectors but allow the use of GPS only SCD's.
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Eldar · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:21 am Post subject:

Broadly speaking the GPS speed camera detectors fall under the category "speed assessment equipment detection devices".

tgold · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:49 am Post subject:

Eldar · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:56 am Post subject:

michaelh85 · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Surely the Freedom of Information Act would make it illegal for the Govt to outlaw GPS databases/systems?

The FoI act, in essence, means that the Govt must release information that is in the public interests. Safety Camera locations are in the interests of public safety.

Radar detectors I can understand as they tell you something very different to meerly the location of a camera.

Darren · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject:

tgold · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject:

Eldar · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject:

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RobBrady · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

You may find the following interesting from our Speed Camera Database Questions And Answers page:

http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=189668#189668

Q. Are your speed camera warnings legal?

A. Yes, the official Government line is that most fixed cameras are installed at accident 'black spots' where four or more serious road accidents have occurred over a three year period. It is the joint policy of both the UK Department for Transport and the police to make the locations of these cameras as well known as possible. The Speed Camera Database (which also includes traffic light camera warnings) adds to this process by identifying the places where extra care should be taken. Not only do we receive additions and modifications from police forces, but we are also reliably informed that police officers 'unofficially' use our database. Officers are often treated more harshly when caught, especially by their superiors, so it is in their interest to be extra careful!
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Q. Do the Government support what you do?

A. Yes. The Road Safety Bill 2005 states: "The Government will not be prohibiting those devices that rely on Global Positioning System (GPS) technology to warn drivers of published camera sites or posted speed limits, as these complement the Government's policy to ensure that camera sites are visible and conspicuous to drivers, and so help deter excessive and inappropriate speeds on the roads." They also say "The road safety benefits are clear. The existing GPS systems can contain information including the location of all approved speed camera sites in the country and the speed limits that apply there. Providing this information to drivers can only improve the prospects of drivers amending their speeds in order to comply with limits at or near camera sites."

The RAC Foundation also support what we do. Edmund King, the executive director, said: "These alerts have clear road safety benefits. They provide drivers with a legitimate reminder that they should slow down, and prevent the need to keep taking their eyes off the road to check the speedometer
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Q. But then why have I read media reports that detectors are illegal?

A. The Government plans to include a ban on radar detectors in a forthcoming Road Safety Bill. The Department of Transport states: "Devices which detect or interfere with the proper functioning of such cameras have only one purpose: to tell drivers when they can break speed limits and get away with it. This is unacceptable, it prevents the police from carrying out their duties, and is a danger to other law-abiding road users." This has no relation whatsoever to the PocketGPSWorld.com database, the type of which the Government actively supports.
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Q. Haven't the Government said that they will be phasing out speed cameras?

A. No, they have said that they will be slowing down the growth. The overall volume of speed cameras will continue to grow, but not as fast as has recently been the case. Additionally, substantial increases in the numbers of red light cameras and mobile locations are predicted.

WafuDude · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject:

The reason, and only reason in my opinion, that the Government are not banning GPS equipment as well is that virtually all Government departments use it themselves (MoD, Police, Ambulance, Fire Dept). If they thought they could get away with it then they would.

delboy0754 · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

Aitch2 · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject:

or even LOSE IT

Aitch
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Darren · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

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