eBay and Other Sites Offering Our Safety Camera Database

UncleBob · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:53 am Post subject:

Could someone who has purchased the TomTom database not "open" it up and compare it with the Lon/Lat settings of our database. That way you can find out for sure who's hard work it really was.

What I'm trying to say is remember what happened with the AA when they nicked OS maps and used it for their own. They got caught out by "fingerprints" on the maps (certain roads that does not exist etc.) and had to pay Ordinance Survey millions back.

...just a thought.

Personally I have not contibuted to any new additions as the roads I normally used are allready covered by the database, but it annoys me as well when someone takes a group's effords and sell it off as their own.

On the other hand as a consumer you also feel screwed afterwards when you finally learn the truth.

Happens to us all doesn't it? You buy a product that you think is a real bargain or value for money just to find out a few days later that you have over paid and all other retailers sold that product for half the price or, as in this case, for free.

gsxr1000 · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 66

all things considered my view is to charge and encrypt the file with a unlock key sent via email to unlock for install or similar......

its great it being free but if you ask the question who will lose out if it is no longer free - then the answer is the peolpe who wouldnt consider buying it anyway so nothing lost there

and for the people who do buy it - proceeds go to your good cause
it really is a win/win situation for the good of the site, with like i said earlier, members who contribute info re new camera sites given a concession.

its obvious that people are benefitting from the teams hard work and on the balance companies are too, some who are posting mega profits

this needs marketing properly now - where else can this information be found for all platforms - i struggle to think, just here

get wise team.......

gsxr1000 · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 66

further....

just look back to clone cd
it started as a snide ripping tool that would copy anythong - totally politicaly incorrect.

now...

they have gone big and cleaned up their act and now clone cd is a big legitimate seller, no longer a warez download

robertn · Frequent Visitor Joined: Feb 06, 2005 Posts: 564

I found these looking for the 'Navman'
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And this one blatently copies the text of your review of the iCN650.
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cootuk · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 17, 2005 Posts: 38

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6030048

Tiffany sued Ebay last year over the sheer number of fakes on offer as they had to employ people to trawl through Ebay trying to unmask all the fake auctions.

I don't know what the outcome of that was, but Ebay seems to believe they have little responsibility over listings. If they were to vet each listing then their profits would tumble as the number of listings would be reduced by an order of magnitude.

Even so I've reported a few fake Route66 auctions, but the seller is merrily relisting tens of auctions.

SimonCatlin · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:32 am Post subject:

Darren · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:36 am Post subject:

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Darren · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:42 am Post subject:

kayble · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 2

I think that www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk might be an offender in this instance. Take a look at this link and scroll down to the Ipaq HW6515. There is an incentive to download a 'FREE SPEED CAMERA DATABASE DOWNLOAD'.

vmlopes · Occasional Visitor Joined: 18/07/2003 14:27:27 Posts: 22

Check this site out, tomtom files and maps being swapped constantly.

http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/forumdisplay.php?f=387

Darren · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:33 am Post subject:

Global Positioning Systems have sought our permission to use the database but I have asked them to make it clear that we are the source. Whilst they have done this on one page I do think they being rather disingenuous in making no mention anywhere else.

We permit retailers to offer a pre-install camera database service as an incentive so long as they apply for a licence and ensure clear credit is given to this site. However, a few have either not applied for a licence or are not abiding by the acknowledgment requirements. In some cases this leads buyers to believe they are getting something different.

We are taking action on this and as I have mooted earlier, we will name and shame those who do not abide by our terms.
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Pocketgps · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:09 am Post subject:

A web site I used some time ago had a HALL OF SHAME page, it listed all the people and web sites found to be using its files without permission, then a colum for those who had then complied and apologized.

Darren · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:11 am Post subject:

StevenGourlay · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject:

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