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Pocketgps
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 Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: TT's own Camera price down |
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Not sure if this has been reported before.
Have just used HOME to update my TT and was offered 1 year sub to their cameras for £15.95
They must be felling the pinch  |
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Darren
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Not just the pinch. I think they're beginning to realise that their speed cam database isn't very good as are more and more customers.
That and the fact that their database subscription is for a single device. Even if they gave it away it wouldn't make up for the fact that it's rubbish.
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andy-c1
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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mine are still £34 & £29 what have I done then
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mcwarre
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Darren wrote: | Not just the pinch. I think they're beginning to realise that their speed cam database isn't very good as are more and more customers.
That and the fact that their database subscription is for a single device. Even if they gave it away it wouldn't make up for the fact that it's rubbish. |
MMmmmm.
As you well know the Live TT Speed Camera database is based on RoadAngel database - to say that is 'rubbish' is simply not true. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| mcwarre wrote: | MMmmmm.
As you well know the Live TT Speed Camera database is based on RoadAngel database - to say that is 'rubbish' is simply not true. |
Firstly we aren't discussing the LIVE offering which is different, and secondly RA's TT offering isn't that great!
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| mcwarre wrote: |
As you well know the Live TT Speed Camera database is based on RoadAngel database |
The operative words here are "based on".
People who have run a RoadAngel unit and a TT with LIVE services side by side have confirmed they are NOT the same.
Only yesterday on a short run I ran a TT unit with the premium "roadangel" TT database and another with the PGPSW on side by side and the TT database missed one camera on the M4 and mis-reported several empty gantries on the M25. |
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mcwarre
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Andy_P wrote: | | mcwarre wrote: |
As you well know the Live TT Speed Camera database is based on RoadAngel database |
The operative words here are "based on".
People who have run a RoadAngel unit and a TT with LIVE services side by side have confirmed they are NOT the same.
Only yesterday on a short run I ran a TT unit with the premium "roadangel" TT database and another with the PGPSW on side by side and the TT database missed one camera on the M4 and mis-reported several empty gantries on the M25. |
That's strange. Where on the M4? I run TT Live and RA and apart from they have just got rid of a specs 50 zone after completion of roadworks (near Swindon iirc) I didn't notice (Slough to Bristol). Maybe it's my old age catching up? An objective assessment rather than 'rubbish' may be more beneficial / believable..... |
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Andy_P
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| From memory, the one the TT missed was the fairly recent Gatso which is at the top of the upwards ramp at junction 2 eastbound (it IS now on their data). As for the mis-reported gantries, I don't have a record, but I can certainly say I've noticed a few other missed cameras in the last few weeks. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| mcwarre wrote: | | An objective assessment rather than 'rubbish' may be more beneficial / believable..... |
You continue to misquote me! My comments were in regard to TomTom's database offering as I explained. Wholly different, although I agree with AndyP that TomTom's LIVE offering of RA's data is questionable too.
Then again, you are free to extol the virtues of RA's data here, something you couldn't do in reverse on their site could you? Do they even have a forum?
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Darren
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And all but impossible to objectively compare as TomTom choose to hide their data, one can only guess as to why? Anti-piracy perhaps or because they know could be easily compared!
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Darren,
Probably anti-piracy - I know that you have had to take significant steps on this due to warez sites (especially for PPC). Dunno if you know but there has been some postings on a certain ppc warez site recently with PGPSW camera database I hope that you can get them removed. PM me if you want the address (although I am sure that you know) |
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Darren
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Thanks, we caught them quickly and a life member has been banned as a result. We have pulled a number of links but it's not worth the effort now. the release data is already a fortnight old.
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