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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: 8.3 puts an end to 3rd party software? Reply with quote

Both "Simple Altimeter" and "Tripmaster" both hang the TomTom after running.
TomTom seem determined to stop anyone else running software on their machines. They have obviously forgotten they started out as Palmtop BV running as 3rd party software on Psion machines!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also seem determined to cut themselves off from a potential revenue stream in the form of users of phones running Symbian S60 with integrated GPS receivers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I'd read a post where someone had got TripMaster (amongst others) working OK on v8.300


EDIT: Found it!
Post #23 HERE
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P wrote:
I thought I'd read a post where someone had got TripMaster (amongst others) working OK on v8.300


EDIT: Found it!
Post #23 HERE


I could not find any positive posts - au contraire!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following on from this do Pocket GPS World have a contingency plan in place if Tomtom decide to exclude all 3rd part add-ons?

Tomtom obviously miss out on revenue from their safety camera database to Pocket GPS World etc.

My main concern and in a worst case scenario, is if people subscribe to the annual PGPSW safety cams and Tomtom bring out a new platform to stop 3rd party add-ons would PGPSW have to refund everyone of it’s a subscribers?.

Don't get me wrong I hope this wont happen as we all know Pocket GPS World database is the most comprehensive and up to date safety warnings around and this is the main reason I purchase Tomtom units because it excepts your own POI and 3rd party add-ons.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure it would be possible.

The way the current system works the PGPSW database is just a series of personally added POIs that maybe have an audible alert attached to them.

I don't think the TomTom can see where they come from or how they got there!

Also to stop them it would have to stop you from entering any other POIs, so again don't reckon it will happen.

Also we subscribe to the site and not to the Camera Database, so they wouldn't have to refund us.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanji wrote:
Andy_P wrote:
I thought I'd read a post where someone had got TripMaster (amongst others) working OK on v8.300


EDIT: Found it!
Post #23 HERE


I could not find any positive posts - au contraire!


Post #23:
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I was trying out sunshine today, it still works, fuelcontrol works, calculator works and media center still works and trip master works. Can't vouch for the rest

Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

batties wrote:
Following on from this do Pocket GPS World have a contingency plan in place if Tomtom decide to exclude all 3rd part add-ons?

Ours is not an addon though, it is just POI data. Were TomTom to prevent users from adding their own custom POI data then there would be a riot!
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My main concern and in a worst case scenario, is if people subscribe to the annual PGPSW safety cams and Tomtom bring out a new platform to stop 3rd party add-ons would PGPSW have to refund everyone of it’s a subscribers?.

As I said, it is highly unlikely that they would block POI data but if they did, the subscription is for access to the members area. Our Ts & Cs state quite clearly that there will be no refunds.

If TomTom block POIs then you can continue to use your sub with an alternate device and we'd all be looking for alternatives to them if they were so foolish!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If TomTom block POIs then you can continue to use your sub with an alternate device and we'd all be looking for alternatives to them if they were so foolish!


totaly agree!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P wrote:
alanji wrote:
Andy_P wrote:
I thought I'd read a post where someone had got TripMaster (amongst others) working OK on v8.300


EDIT: Found it!
Post #23 HERE


I could not find any positive posts - au contraire!


Post #23:
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I was trying out sunshine today, it still works, fuelcontrol works, calculator works and media center still works and trip master works. Can't vouch for the rest

Cool


Must admit I missed it. But all the other posts are negative. It would be nice to hear from anyone else who has/has not managed to get any (what) 3rd party apps to work on 8.3. There must be a few more people who run 3rd party apps?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 8.3 puts an end to 3rd party software? Reply with quote

alanji wrote:
TomTom seem determined to stop anyone else running software on their machines.


That's a bit odd because they published a software developers kit for third parties at one stage, didn't they?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 8.3 puts an end to 3rd party software? Reply with quote

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That's a bit odd because they published a software developers kit for third parties at one stage, didn't they?

And then withdrew it with the advent of v7.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Tomtom would not get a penny of my money again I would sooner buy a road map first if they had any foolish ideas like that Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone who used Tomplayer, look at the thread here on how to make it work with firmware 8.3.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David

Thanks for the link, but unfortunately your link fails as it has a 'J' in front of http in web address


you posted link as

jhttp://tomtomforums.com/showthread.php?t=12833

and not as


http://tomtomforums.com/showthread.php?t=12833
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