False Alarms

akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: False Alarms

In one 3hour journey I counted 14 camera alarms yet there were only two cameras. The rest were bridges, lay bys and stretches of dual carriageway where there may have been previous roadworks. I update my Garmin every month and all the constant beeping is driving me insane. What's happening?

Darren · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:13 am Post subject:

Possible Mobile Camera Sites?
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Andy_P · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject:

In order to tell what TYPE of alarm you are getting, you need to have opted for one of the versions of the database which splits the cameras up into types or types and speeds.
The single file "all cameras in one" version will behave exactly as you report.

akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject:

I did download the separate files, and deleted the temps before transferring to my Satnav. I seem to get beeped at every place there may ever have been a camera at any time!

Darren · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

And what does the display show? 14 cameras in 3hrs driving is hardly unusual, I could drive down the A3 and get 10 in 5 miles!

If they're reported mobile site locations then we put them in the database, if you don't want to be warned about potential mobile sites (and its these that catch most drivers) then don't install the mobile file?
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akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject:

The display shows a camera icon approaching and a speed alert of xxmph.They are often 70mph alerts on major dual carriageways where there may have been roadworks several months before. Are you notified when these works are finished? Do you want to be by members?

Darren · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject:

We are notified and we do remove them but we always welcome notifications from members. Can you give me a location and I can check what we have recorded for there?

I doubt they are roadworks, you wouldn't get a 70mph limit in roadworks!
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PaulB2005 · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:

DennisN · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

It's hardly worth deleting the temp cameras - there are only five on the latest database (18th June).
Mobiles are the probable cause. I did at one time not transfer the 70mph mobiles, on the grounds that they only show the national speed limit - if I don't know what that is, I'm not fit to be out there behind a steering wheel. But I have gone back to transferring them, just as reminders on motorways and dual carriageways.

Remember, the mobile cameras will be in operation only once a blue moon at any given site - the attraction of mobile cameras is that the authorities keep you guessing (and not speeding) by shifting them from site to site, during the day and on different days.

There's a site on the Avon Ring Road round Bristol which always howls at me and I drive that way probably a dozen times a week. Yesterday afternoon I saw a van there for only the second time in a couple of years. But it only needs those two occasions to get you (not me - I'm a nice driver!).

For goodness sake, please DO report cameras, both going up and coming down - I and many others (including you) benefit from all the reporting. Note, pgpsw also ask you to report when you actually see a mobile camera in operation (as I did yesterday). It doesn't do me any good, except that pgpsw record that it has actually been seen "recently" so as to justify keeping it in the database.
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Andy_P · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject:

akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject:

Yes, you're right. The ex-roadworks are 40 or 50 and the bridges and etc are the 70's. There's an ex-roadworks phantom stretch on the A12 going West at junction 27ish that I've long since learned to ignore. Question, - if I download the individual files, unzip and then delete the temps and/or mobiles before transferring does that leave the last lot of temps still in my Garmin or is everything wiped before the new stuff goes in? Secondly, is it possible for the alert to show maybe T for temp or F for fixed or similar?It does show "Redlight" when appropriate and that's useful. Thanks to you all for your responses today, I appreciate it.

akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject:

Andy-P002,
Never looked that closely, and didn't know they were different. I'll pay more attention next time.

PaulB2005 · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject:

What Sat Nav are you using?

akdavis · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

Paul, Garmin Street Pilot 320

Andy_P · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject:

The reason I asked, is that it will help to find out what version of the database you've installed and what type of camera they might be.

As for your "F" or "T" idea, assuming the Garmin works the same as the TomTom (and looking at the bitmap icons in the Garmin version of the downloads, it does), so long as you have either the "consolidated by type" version or preferably the "speed-zoned" version, you can have whatever you like as the on-screen warning image (so long as you can fit it into a 22x22 pixel box!).

For example, I don't use the standard Gatso or any of the mobile or specs images provided in the download (icons A plus C to H above). I made my own which all have the big speed limit sign and the word "Mobile" or "Specs" below it. Like this:

and

PM me with an email address if you want to try those.

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