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RavingDave
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Icons / Legend shown on Google Map Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me where to find a key or legend to the Icons used on the Google Map used on the page to report new cameras.

There is a red light camera I have come across in Guildford which does not appear in the database on my Garmin Nuvi, but when I went to enter a new camera submission I found an icon on the google map where the camera is located. The Icon is a red square with red vertical and horizontal lines across the middle (like a window). What does this icon mean? Why doe it not show on my Garmin when I download the database?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this thread
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... although no-one ever said what the square red ones were! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks I can now see where the description is shown in the status bar.

As you say red square with cross hairs is not shown in the thread that describes the icons.

The google map says that 16634@40 (red square icon) is a redlight - this one does not show up on my Garmin. The other side of the junction on the other carriageway (20784@40) shows a traffic light icon - and this one does show up in Garmin.

Also just further down the road is 22261@40, another redlight, shown as red square+cross hair. This also does not show up on Garmin.

Does red square perhaps mean this camera has been reported, but awaiting verification before being included? I can personally verify 16634 to the tune of 3 points! (pre sat nav I might add)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RavingDave wrote:

Does red square perhaps mean this camera has been reported, but awaiting verification before being included?


I suspect you're right. Can someone "in the know" confirm?

Sorry to hear about the points, Dave...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the red squre is a pending redlight camera. i.e. we are awaiting confirmation for that camera. not sure if it should be showing on the map though, i'll check!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about including a 'pending confirmation' category as an additional database file. Better safe than sorry?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good idea, mate, but you're not the first! People have been suggesting this for quite a while as a way of speeding up the verification process....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy, the down side to this is that it would enable the less than honest to post an update to a pending location without actually driving past the location.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xda wrote:
Andy, the down side to this is that it would enable the less than honest to post an update to a pending location without actually driving past the location.


Sorry, not quite with you...
What would be the point? There is no incentive to be the 2nd to report a camera, other than "the general good", and if you mean they could post an amendment, how would they know what was wrong with the original report if they didn't actually visit the site?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P2002 wrote:
xda wrote:
Andy, the down side to this is that it would enable the less than honest to post an update to a pending location without actually driving past the location.


Sorry, not quite with you...
What would be the point? There is no incentive to be the 2nd to report a camera, other than "the general good", and if you mean they could post an amendment, how would they know what was wrong with the original report if they didn't actually visit the site?


simple really - they want to screw up the database. if it's got loads of wrong locations then that's not a good thing and would reduce the number of potential subscribers etc etc etc and make the competition look better.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think there was any real competition other than TomTom themselves, and they wouldn't stoop that low would they? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:


simple really - they want to screw up the database. if it's got loads of wrong locations then that's not a good thing and would reduce the number of potential subscribers etc etc etc and make the competition look better.

MaFt


I'd rather have a false alarm show up as an 'unverified site', rather than getting points only to find the infomation was readily available (albeit not verified). Presumably you must have some experience to date to indicate what level of reported sites turn out to be incorrect. I would have thought this was relatively low, and that the level of malicious information would be even lower. Perhaps only include the unverified sites from annual subscribers, the vast majority of which are presumably interested in as complete a database as possible?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P2002 wrote:
xda wrote:
Andy, the down side to this is that it would enable the less than honest to post an update to a pending location without actually driving past the location.


Sorry, not quite with you...
What would be the point? There is no incentive to be the 2nd to report a camera, other than "the general good", and if you mean they could post an amendment, how would they know what was wrong with the original report if they didn't actually visit the site?


Agree there is no incentive, but there are a considerable number of mobile sites being added that if you look at the location there is no were a van can be parked without obstructing the flow of traffic, also the ones that are in but are the blue and white warning signs.
As MaFt pointed out there are those that get some pleasure out of destroying other peoples work.
With the amount of mobile camera sites in the database now I can see why TomTom don't include them in there's.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the more reason to publish them as "awaiting confirmation" rather than either leaving them off or just bunging them on "in case".

If it is a daft submission then the person who checks that site can say so.
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