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Dave Frequent Visitor
Joined: Sep 10, 2003 Posts: 6460 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:53 am Post subject: Warning - Rikaline X7 Bug |
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Many Rikaline X7 owners have been experiencing sporadic problems with their X7's, sometimes they work, then other times they keep stopping mid flow as though someone as just switched the GPS Receiver on and off a few times whilst you are using it.
I have spoken with Rikaline Taiwan and they are aware of this problem. They believe it's not a major bug (although people experiencing it may disagree), and Rikaline are currently work on a firmware update and we'll post any further response including when the fix is available here. |
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hijacker Regular Visitor
Joined: Dec 20, 2003 Posts: 188
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info Dave.
If they can produce a fix for it do you think "Joe Bloggs" like us will be able to flash upgrade it??
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Dave Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:05 am Post subject: |
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I hope so, although I've had the privilege of having to flash the Rikaline X6 and it really wasn't for the faint hearted. Once you have the right files and proper instructions it should be fairly easy to do, but I didn't have these. 8O |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding from talking to Sam Goldsmith of Rikaline UK it that the firmware on the BT receiver needs to be upgraded by Rikaline.
This is not a user upgrade, but can be done at the local Rikaline office and doesnt need to go back to the factory. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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hijacker Regular Visitor
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Does this imply that a fix is nearly available for this product and if so what do owners of the X7 do now?
Send back their units and wait for them coming back or sit tight? |
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Dave Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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As we are nearing Xmas, the fix is most probably several weeks away. So you will have to unfortunately wait until a fix is available (or perhaps see if you can return it and swap out with another GPS in the mean time).
Performing a firmware update on a Rikaline receiver is very simple once you have the information, it just requires the firmware updater program, a new firmware release file, running the program, selecting to backup the original ROM (just in case something goes wrong), then loading the new ROM file and telling it to flash the GPS, power cycle and you are there. Pretty simple.
Some GPS companies will allow you to download the ROM updates and flash the GPS Receiver yourselves because this requires very little effort from them in supporting (apart from having to replace units that may have corrupted on flashing the ROM), but many GPS companies do prefer you to return the products back to them to make sure they don't have too many failed units.
We'll have to wait and see what Rikaline decide to do when the update is available. Mike is currently talking to Rikaline UK and I am talking to Rikaline Taiwan, we'll let you all know when we have further information regarding availability of the firmware and whether it has to be sent back to base or can be flashed by yourself.
I guess if you think about it, many ocmpanies like HP themselves let you flash the ROM of their Pocket PC's, so it shouldn't be a difficult thing to do, providing you don't disconnect the GPS or interrupt the power or press any buttons until the update has finished, you should be okay. |
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fks123 Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:51 am Post subject: |
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hi Dave,
any news from Rikaline in Taiwan ??
why are they taking so long ??
can they solve the problem ??
sam |
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Dave Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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No news yet, but the main problem is we are still in the Xmas holiday season, most companies don't officially start back until 5th or are on a very reduced skeleton staff until 5th Jan, so I really wouldn't be expecting anything until towards the end of next week at the earliest. |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Latest update from Rikaline UK:
Quote: | Update on the X7 Bluetooth receiver. Rikaline have a solution, however the receivers will need to be updated by us they cannot be updated by the consumer.
Rikaline TW are currently testing the fix to see if it is complete and will keep you informed. |
_________________ Mike Barrett |
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gpsfan Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Has this been fixed on currently shipping models or are we still in "limbo"?
Apparently some people have shipped their model back, but it's unclear whether they're getting fixed. This is confusing! |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have just had confirmation from Rikaline Uk that all X7 GPS receivers sold in the last 2 weeks or so have all got the updated firmware in them.
If there is any doubt as to the version that you have the new ones with the bug fixes do not require a passkey when pairing. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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gpsfan Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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So no BT stability problems on the news ones? Are they sending you a test unit so someone outside of Rikaline can verify this? |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Rikaline UK said they would send us the new X7 to test last week. However it has not been sent out yet.
As soon as it is we will provide feedback to you and Rikaline. _________________ Mike Barrett
Last edited by MikeB on Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:27 am; edited 1 time in total |
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gpsfan Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! |
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Riptorn Occasional Visitor
Joined: Feb 10, 2004 Posts: 5 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, have just spent the day configuring my X7 with my handheld. There was no passkey required and I bought it two days ago so I'm presuming that it has the upgrade mentioned. I took it out on a walk earlier, and noticed my position stalling and then jumping about abit. Whether this was due to the fact that I was carrying the X7 in my pocket (in my keeness to get going I hadn't worked out where the GPS signal strength indicator was on the nav screen) or something more inherent, I don't know.
Am off in the car to watch the Arsenal in half an hour and will give it a more thorough work out. Will get back to you with my conclusions.
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