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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally the only reason there are additional average speed cameras is to log drivers entering or leaving part way through the overall section covered by the cameras. I suspect therefore that in the example above any timings at intermediate cameras would be ignored if you drove past the lot and it would simply be start and end timings that would count, but like M8TJT I don't intend to test it!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve changed my vote from MaFt to M8TJT. I think he should test the multiple Specs cameras on M4 between J12 and J13. (We have them, correctly, as 50mph, but TomTom have an old set at 40mph and bleeps continuously for mile after mile after mile).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
TomTom have an old set at 40mph and bleeps continuously for mile after mile after mile).
Oh, c'mon Dennis, you know exactly what to do about that. It involves window and TomTom.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:
DennisN wrote:
TomTom have an old set at 40mph and bleeps continuously for mile after mile after mile).
Oh, c'mon Dennis, you know exactly what to do about that. It involves window and TomTom.


That's littering, you should suggest involving a "bin" and TomTom
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, how un-pc of me. Better not tell Justin Greening that I suggested window and TT. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT cameras out of date, surely not.

I reckon it will NIP you for any double camera infringement. You could break one set then get stuck for the rest and your average for say 1 to 5 is OK but you did a Jackie Stewart between 1 and 2.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Average Hadecs? Reply with quote

Thanks for all your input. There doesn't seem to be any proof that these cameras record average speed, but there must be a reason why they would replace a set of about six Gatsos with two Hadecs.

Maybe we need someone to let us know if they are ever given a fine for excessive average speed within Hadecs. That's if they are told it was recorded over a distance? Do people get told it is for average speed when they are caught in Specs territory?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HADECS are NOT average speed cameras.
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there must be a reason why they would replace a set of about six Gatsos with two Hadecs
Cost? Were the old Gatsos wet film? If so, that's why. Cost of maintenance and reviewing the film.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Average Hadecs? Reply with quote

HHGPS wrote:
Thanks for all your input. There doesn't seem to be any proof that these cameras record average speed, but there must be a reason why they would replace a set of about six Gatsos with two Hadecs.

Maybe we need someone to let us know if they are ever given a fine for excessive average speed within Hadecs. That's if they are told it was recorded over a distance? Do people get told it is for average speed when they are caught in Specs territory?


It seems you're still not convinced that they are simply digital gatsos that cover all lanes. Here is some light reading:

https://www.speedcamerasuk.com/hadecs-3.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a theory. - It doesn’t matter what type a camera is - if you get caught by a camera you’re caught. Do you drive over the speed limit if the camera type is not to your liking, but stick to the limit for the lovely ones?

Which one/s is/are safe to exceed the limit? Which are not to be ignored? What’s the difference between exceeding the speed limit in a Gatso zone, in a Truvelo zone, LT20/20, Hadecs, Specs, Redspeed?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially the LT20/20
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot on Dennis.

Maybe that's what the Garmin routing is doing. It isn't accidentally taking you down country lanes but avoiding those nasty cameras.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my own theory.

The M62 from Bradford towards Leeds (eastbound) has had the old gatso's removed and a bunch of HADECs added. ALSO added were a number of grey SPECS poles and cameras. There are no signs saying average speed checks and they're not the usual yellow. I asked West Yorkshire Safety Camera Partnership some time back what they were (see here) and they said all the info is on their website (it's not by the way!)

So I wonder if the OP is confusing these grey SPECS cameras (I call them specs because they have the bird logo on the arm) with HADECS?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve just developed a new theory. .....

If you don’t know what type of camera it is, it’s OK to exceed the speed limit.
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