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M8TJT
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Please accept my appologies for the incorrect quote. I made a mistake in editing. I will go back and correct it.
No tongue in cheek at all. As I understand it, the camera dattabase is to make people aware of the fact that there is a camera in the vicinity and drive accordingly. If this causes people to slow down, then both the database and the camera have done their job. |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Philip wrote: | | And please try to get your quotations correct - I never said the above. |
I've just corrected that incorrect quote. |
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Guivre46
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Could you try some other font colour? Almost impossible to read......
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sussamb
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Philip wrote: | | M8TJT wrote: | | Philip wrote: | | There are other ways of making traffic move slower. |
Yes, speed cameras  |
I assume that your comment is meant tongue-in-cheek (given that you are a "Verifier" of a site whose sole purpose is to assist motorists to avoid those cameras, through the production of the Speed Camera database and the CamerAlert software)!
And please try to get your quotations correct - I never said the above. |
I don't believe the purpose of this site is 'to avoid those cameras', but it is to warn you that one is around so you can check you are driving to the correct limit as signed, which is sometimes difficult given the plethora of signs on our roads today. We should all be driving within the limit, even though we may think that the posted limit, for whatever reason, is wrong. |
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Guivre46
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Philip is right, there always have been drivers who ignore speed limits and only brake when they see a camera. When I started driving you always kept watch for a police car or motorbike dropping in behind you, after that you had to watch for police officers with speed guns behind trees and bus shelters etc. Now there are cameras. All camera databases make it more easy for the most irresponsible to escape detection, but they'd speed anyway.
I used to be less responsible, but I've grown up. Still I can be distracted and miss limit signs, fail to notice my speed has crept up, and sometimes just be confused by complex road signage. I have a speed warning unit [no names] and the most useful thing is that it tells me what the limit is on the road I'm driving on, though it's never 100% accurate, it's still a big help. The camera warnings are not the most important feature, but they enable me to double check my driving at the point that my speed is going to be measured.
Edit: for meaning
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DennisN
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Guivre46 wrote: | | I used to be less responsible, but I've grown up. |
Edited to put this in blue so that we can recognise how important your message is.  It is long gone time for all the boys to understand that it isn't big or grown up to speed. James Bond et al are fiction.
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technik
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| sussamb wrote: | Well regardless of the details far too many drivers IMHO are breaking the limit and something should indeed be done  |
Raise the speed limit. 
It is obviously too low.
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technik
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| sussamb wrote: | | We should all be driving within the limit, even though we may think that the posted limit, for whatever reason, is wrong. |
Would you drive over a cliff into the sea because a sign tells you to?
Instead of relying on signs, drivers should be able to think for themselves.
The flashing speed signs are a good idea in making people think about their speeds.
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sussamb
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| technik wrote: | | sussamb wrote: | | Well regardless of the details far too many drivers IMHO are breaking the limit and something should indeed be done |
Raise the speed limit.
It is obviously too low. |
Really? Why?
(You might be right, but it needs more than you just saying so) |
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sussamb
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| technik wrote: | | sussamb wrote: | | We should all be driving within the limit, even though we may think that the posted limit, for whatever reason, is wrong. |
Would you drive over a cliff into the sea because a sign tells you to?
Instead of relying on signs, drivers should be able to think for themselves.
The flashing speed signs are a good idea in making people think about their speeds. |
I always think about my speed. I've cut too many people out of cars who have killed/maimed/injured themselves or others not to.
Part of a driver thinking as you put it is to take in everything around them, including signs. Unless of course someone is so arrogant that they believe they can simply ignore them. |
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DennisN
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| sussamb wrote: | | technik wrote: | | sussamb wrote: | | Well regardless of the details far too many drivers IMHO are breaking the limit and something should indeed be done |
Raise the speed limit.
It is obviously too low. |
Really? Why?
(You might be right, but it needs more than you just saying so) |
I think (well, I hope) that he was joking - there was a smiley. I bet there are hundreds of school zones where there hasn't been a single child killer in years, so we should de-restrict them. (That IS a joke - subtle, as is my nature).
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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But you claim that you don't do subtle Dennis. I wish you would make up your mind  |
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DennisN
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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This time it needed subtle after you grumped about using colour to emphasise the unique importance of one's posts. 
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technik
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| DennisN wrote: | | I bet there are hundreds of school zones where there hasn't been a single child killer in years, so we should de-restrict them. (That IS a joke - subtle, as is my nature). |
Outside schools around here you can barely get past all the parked cars on both sides of the narrow roads, and even the zigzags where the mums are parked. You have zero chance of reaching the speed limit.
Maybe Dennis was talking about our Yankee 'friends' and non-road issues?
or, maybe he has a point, just shoot anyone breaking the speed limit!
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