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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: Google Caught Playing Dirty .... End Of Don't Be Evil? |
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Google have once again been caught playing dirty by eagle eyed admins. Last week, Mocality, a Kenyan business startup, noticed some off records in their logs and, after investigating, found that Google staff were scraping data. Mocality even seeded false data to ensnare Google and sure enough, Google were caught red handed.
Now Google have been caught red handed yet again, this time by our friends at OpenStreetmap. Clearly, their unofficial Motto, 'Don't Be Evil', has been dropped.
Investigation has revealed that users from Google owned IP addresses in India (the same IP addresses identified by Mocality) have been deleting, editing and otherwise vandalizing OpenStreetMap data including reversing one-way streets in London, New York and other locations.
OpenStreetMap are now analysing their log data but it's left everyone wondering if we're being far too trusting in allowing Google access to so much of our data, emails, contacts and addresses.
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15297 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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That's actually quite sickening...
It makes me genuinely wonder where a lot of their data for their UK maps has come from... We all assumed they mapped it when they did StreetView but now this is out it's seeming less likely...!
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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One of the reasons I refuse to even give Chrome a go.
I reckon it could be laden with usage 'spyware'. The others may be no better but I just don't trust Google anymore. _________________ DashCam:
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't trust Google either. And Facebook are just as bad! However, I still use them on a daily basis... :/
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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MaFt wrote: | I don't trust Google either.......
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I've started using www.DuckDuckGo.com instead of Google for my Web searches.Strange name but just a good without invasion of privacy issues. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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The web search is only a tiny part of it though... Google Places (used to be Google Local), Google Maps, Google Code, Google+, Google Music, YouTube, Picassa...
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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They continue to make Microsoft look like angels
Google are scumbags, we all know that their days are numbered because today companies can fall as quickly as they rise, and as soon as everyone wises up to their antics the sooner we start back on the road to a properly paid for internet model _________________ TomTom Go Live 6100, 600
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carl_w Lifetime Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Kremmen wrote: | One of the reasons I refuse to even give Chrome a go | SRWare Iron is based on the Chromium source without any of the spyware. |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Possible interesting twist at the end ?? The Register |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: |
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I guess we will have to wait and see what results, two sides to a coin but it's worrying when in-fighting like this in a not-for profit outfit like OSM starts to get public. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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PaulB2005 wrote: | Possible interesting twist at the end ?? The Register |
Yeah, I'd spotted that in the blog post too...!
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Via CNet:
Quote: | Google had this to say about the OpenStreetMap incident Google wrote: | The two people who made these changes were contractors acting on their own behalf while on the Google network. They are no longer working on Google projects. | |
Far from convinced that this was yet another 'one off' by employees/contractors acting on their own. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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mikea_d Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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xtraseller wrote: | They continue to make Microsoft look like angels
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If you're worried about Google, you should be very worried about Apple! |
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m0jfk Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: Google |
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Its well known that Google was set up mainly by funding from the Secret Service agency the CIA. Many whistleblowers have warned of Googles close connection to the CIA. I wont even use their search engine let alone their software...then again all the Internet is one big spy tool for the goverments around the globe and Assange warned you of this. Every thing you do is now stored in a massive complex based in America...evey MSN message or search you did is now stored. No wonder Google makes info go missing. |
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joneskdale Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: Where did Google get their data from |
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I'm curious where Google got some of their mapping data from. As their latest data now shows my personal drive (not shown on earlier Google maps) and they didn't get it by surveying it as there are electric gates at the entrance to the drive. It's not visible from the satellite view either as its covered by trees. |
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