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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Garmin And Network Rail Offer Free Level Crossing Warnings Reply with quote

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Garmin have worked with Network Rail to offer what they describe as an "application" that is "a world first in satellite navigation technology" or, to you and I, a POI file of level crossings...

As you approach a level crossing you get a red cross icon and a "cheery train whistle" sound. In case you're not quite sure what that may sound like then you can see it in the official video clip after clicking the 'Read More' link below.

The POIs are available in .gpi format ready to simply copy and paste onto your nuvi, zumo or any other Garmin device that can accept the files. If you don't have a Garmin but you still want to get warnings for level crossings then you can also download our own POIs for level crossings (look under the Transport category) that will work on a wide variety of SatNav's from various manufacturers and is regularly updated/maintained.

Here is an official video clip of the "application" in action:



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo, Milford (Surrey) one of the most abused crossings on the Waterloo - Portsmouth mainline.

I've witnessed the local idiots carefully usher numerous cars, a lorry, a bus & a school bus around the barriers when they've been stuck down.

Typical Surrey morons. Twisted Evil

Oh the link to the page is: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/12793.aspx
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And of course, on many other systems you can still have the "cheery train whistle" sound as an audible warning.

Here's one I just edited up and saved in .ogg format for TomToms.
Train_whistle.ogg
(left click to listen, right click and "save as..." to download)

Either put it into the "sounds" folder and select it from the sound effects page when setting up the "Warn when near" of the level crossings POI file you're using, or rename it to match the POI file name to get the TomTom to select the audio automatically (just like with the speed cameras).


Original file courtesy of 'the_toilet_guy' at The Freesound Project (www.freesound.org)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be really useful is if Tomtom and Garmin could hook their live services into Network Rail's train location database, so the satnavs could take you on a crossing-avoiding route if the barriers were going to be down when you got there.

Particularly useful if they're planning on sending three trains through in a row, so the barriers stay down for ages.

(Or just about any time at the crossing by West Worthing station, of course — I don't know why satnavs even bother trying to send people that way!)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, that could be classed as a security issue. Live with it.

If you don't want to chance having to wait at level crossings find an alternative route.

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/2292.aspx

You never know, you jump the barriers, you might:

1: Find out how the user of electric chair feels, when your car goes underneath my train as there's a nominal 750v DC @ 6kA in the 3rd rail.

2: Hopefully if you're lucky you won't know anything about it as I hit your car with between 170 & 510 tonnes of metal at anywhere between 70 & 100mph.

3: Find out if there's a heaven or real set of pearly gates.

4: Find out if God actually exists.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put Very Happy

I attended as part of an ambulance response someone who'd been hit by a train, wasn't a pretty sight as he wasn't in one piece. It's not worth the risk that some people insist on still taking Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wazza_G wrote:
No, that could be classed as a security issue. Live with it.


Network Rail imply otherwise: "We are also looking into developing an intelligent version where motorists can choose routes that avoid level crossings or alter the route to avoid a level crossing where the barriers are down if there is a quicker alternative route." - from http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/12793.aspx

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it.

Surely the issue with level crossings is not identifying where they are, but the idiots who choose to drive around the barriers when a train is coming. The only subset of drivers I can see benefiting from this POI set is those who drive across a level crossing without noticing that it's a level crossing. Usually the barriers and warning lights are a big clue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of course don't have barriers etc, but I agree, it's difficult (generally) to miss them ... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a Garmin owner?

You can convert Garmin GPI files to pretty much any other format here: http://garmin.gps-data-team.com/extra/poiedit.php?file=NewPOIfile

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it very interesting the difference in cultures between the USA and the UK, usually to the detriment of the USA. However with the railways they have got it right: Darwinism has produced a society with a healthy respect for the railroads.

I have never found a level crossing here. At best there are pole barriers, and often just flashing lights. The tracks are not even fenced off you 'could' just walk down the tracks, even in a city. In all the time I have been coming over I have only witnessed one incident and that was a beached low-loader that got stuck on the crossing.

The result of this is that the public is not kept away from the tracks and has learnt that railways=danger and treat them as such. Isolating the public and protecting them from the danger removes our survival instinct. Maybe it is time to relax the health and safety regime and re-introduce common sense. Educate rather than wrap up in cotton wool!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps if you were in my position & just missed one or two of the morons who jump the barriers whilst doing 80+mph, you might have a change of mind.

I've missed two so far, so by rights I should impact on the next one (Three strikes & you're out!)

First one was at Kings Fernsden (Petersfield, Hants), missed one doing 85mph by a matter of feet.

Second was at Milford, Surrey (Where that NR film was shot), doing 80 with a fast London, a car driven by a dumbass woman with two kids in the back, went around the barriers, missed them by probably 20m.

I hope you wont take offence when I say she's a ****ing unfit parent (that's a cleaned up version of it!) Twisted Evil

The British are complacent to say the least, they don't have a clue how fast & how heavy a train is & how far it takes to stop one from 100mph (it's about ¾mile on a good dry rail & good brake), about 1¼miles from 125mph. It maybe time to start being as hard hitting as the Australians are with their rail safety films.

Because TBQH this country is run by wooses, who won't do hard hitting films, in fact as a driver I think it's really about time that we started showing the true, uncensored version of what happens to a human when hit by a train, it might just hit home.

You may call that sick, I don't!

Having killed once & seen the consequences on more than one occasion, over nearly a ¼ century of driving on the mainlines, by showing the true consequences of mucking about on the tracks & level crossings I think it might actually strike home.

So in the meantime have a look at these.

But be warned you may find them very uncomfortable viewing or upsetting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuAqJIpkRgk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_s4m54w1I&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ydIImbSXWA
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have realised that the POI uploader software deletes this install when updating the traffic cameras. what should I do to avoid this or is it a case of reinstalling the level crossing data after updating the cameras?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep all your POIs in ONE folder on your PC, and every time you update one, add it to that folder (replacing the old files). Then point POILoader at that folder, to upload them all in one go.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the prompt reply but as the packed file is an .OV2 file will this work or is conversion needed and if so how?
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