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Allenmere
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comment about failing after half an hour may be correct, but I can't swear to it as I have only noticed Cameralert has closed when observing a camera but receiving no warning. I am on the road a lot and both Cameralert and googlenav may run upwards of 8 hours per day.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW - I had a feeling at one stage that Cameralert was closing when I had been stopped for a period (say 5 minutes or more) but also cannot swear to that fact.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we do have such an inactivity timer. But only in the iOS version of CamerAlert...
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: GOOGLENAV AND CAMERALERT ICONS CHANGE AROUND Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

Noticed today, and on the weekend, that the icons for Googlenav and Cameralert swapped their positions on the task bar for a split second fairly frequently, before swapping back to their previous positions. They were second and third from the left, with Google being second and Cameralert, third. Are they fighting each other?
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pillow fight!!!

AFAIK this is happening on some newer Android versions. I saw it on 2.3.3 I think, but no longer on 2.3.4
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for my post is was really to question whether this had anything to do with Cameralert closing on it's own. This still is happening - do you intend to resolve this issue?
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allenmere wrote:
The reason for my post is was really to question whether this had anything to do with Cameralert closing on it's own. This still is happening - do you intend to resolve this issue?


which issue? the icon fight or the closing?
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The closing
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allenmere wrote:
The closing


We will. But it will take longer without any sort of crashlogs or without us witnessing it ourself. As much info as possible will help too. Is it reproducible? What exact steps are taken to reproduce it? What other apps are running in background etc? What's your free memory like...

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not visibly crashing so there are no crash logs. Is it reproducible - yes - just open Googlenav and Cameralert at the same time and keep Googlenav in the foreground. Apps running are Oovoo, Norton NAV, aFirewall (spelling is correct), SPB Shell 3D, Battery Notifier Pro 3D, Gentle Alarm, Phone weaver. Mem never less than 120mb available.
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried it with the other app's disabled to see if it still does it? then try them all one by one. It may be a side-effect of another issue?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, got a log file (an app called process monitor widget) which will store the Logcat to a file when requested.

Long drive Monday. Cameralert started first, then started googlenav. Cameralert left in background. Around an hour in I noticed that the cameralert icon was no longer in the notification bar.

Used process monitor widget to grab the current Logcat, unfortunately its backwards with newest item at the top:



    V/--- beginnin f /dev/log/main
    I/08:18:37.226 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc ccc71.pmw for service ccc71.pmw/.lib.pmw_service: pid=5290 uid=10116 gids={1007, 1015, 3003}
    I/08:18:32.214 WindowManager( 106)
    WIN DEATH: Window{40547d50 ccc71.pmw/ccc71.pmw.pmw_logcat paused=false}
    I/08:18:32.203 WindowManager( 106)
    WIN DEATH: Window{40a53bb0 ccc71.pmw/ccc71.pmw.pmw_monitor paused=false}
    W/08:18:32.203 ActivityManager( 106)
    Scheduling restart of crashed service ccc71.pmw/.lib.pmw_service in 5000ms
    I/08:18:31.988 ActivityManager( 106)
    No longer want ccc71.pmw (pid 30219): hidden #16
    I/08:18:31.773 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert for service com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert/.LocationUpdates: pid=5265 uid=10059 gids={3003, 1015}
    I/08:18:26.769 WindowManager( 106)
    WIN DEATH: Window{409f9e18 com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert/com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert.MainScreen paused=false}
    W/08:18:26.765 ActivityManager( 106)
    Scheduling restart of crashed service com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert/.LocationUpdates in 5000ms
    I/08:18:26.707 ActivityManager( 106)
    No longer want com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert (pid 29199): hidden #16
    I/08:18:12.472 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc com.google.android.gm for service com.google.android.gm/.provider.MailSyncAdapterService: pid=5200 uid=10039 gids={3003, 1015}
    I/08:12:02.699 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc a2dp.Vol for service a2dp.Vol/.service: pid=4555 uid=10104 gids={3002, 1015}
    W/08:11:57.691 ActivityManager( 106)
    Scheduling restart of crashed service a2dp.Vol/.service in 5000ms
    I/08:11:57.640 ActivityManager( 106)
    No longer want a2dp.Vol (pid 29169): hidden #16
    I/08:11:56.515 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc uk.co.olilan.touchcalendar for broadcast uk.co.olilan.touchcalendar/.WidgetProvider4x4: pid=4537 uid=10113 gids={}
    I/08:11:56.015 ActivityManager( 106)
    Start proc com.android.providers.calendar for content provider com.android.providers.calendar/.CalendarProvider2: pid=4526 uid=10048 gids={3003}
    I/08:11:55.761 ActivityManager( 106)


I think the key bit here is:
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I/08:18:26.707 ActivityManager( 106)
No longer want com.pocketgpsworld.cameralert (pid 29199): hidden #16


Found this info, but cannot find out what the "hidden #16" relates to.

http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActivityManager.html

Maybe this will help??
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some info and ideas here:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3297204/android-service-killed-with-no-longer-want-how-to-restart-it

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3386129/my-android-widget-is-killed-no-longer-want-bellander-andro

and, finally: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14340

It looks like it's an issue with Android 2.3 and will be fixed in Android 3.0...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone with the issue please "star" the problem on the code.google.com site?
This should raise the issue priority with google. I have linked back to this thread there too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder what happens when CamerAlert is in the foreground and Google Nav in the background at the 30 minute mark. Would it still kill the CamerAlert service?
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