SatNav Directly Responsible For Man's Death

[MaFt]

i would say that this is where they went in:

http://MaFt.co.uk/misc/pgpsw/lake.png


and if you look further east you can see that there IS a road there but it's submerged - i wonder if this is one of those 'seasonal' roads that depends on the volume of water in there? like the road to Holy Island?

http://MaFt.co.uk/misc/pgpsw/lake2.png

MaFt

[Darren]

Or it's a road that was consumed by the reservoir?
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Darren Griffin

[MaFt]

[Guivre46]

The Telegraph report says the satnav did not have an up-to-date map and did not show the reservoir. Both men were from Senegal, so presumably would not have 'local' knowledge. Still not clear whether there were warning signs on the road or not. From the google map the road looks clear and in reasonable condition? A newer map version would have saved them. Makes me reconsider my criticism of TT's frequent map updates, even though most show little change - some changes are crucial. Though I suppose you could ask how long the reservoir would be there before teleatlas included it?
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[Andy_P]

I still can't see how they couldn't stop in time. It's not like there was a sudden drop into fifty feet of water...
From the pictures it looks as if the road is still there under the water, therefore the depth of water must increase pretty gently.

EDIT: Sorry, I take it all back, I've just seen Darren's picture of the car on the ramp and it does look a bit steep!
EDIT2 - I take back my taking back if mostdom's right about it just being where they pulled the car out rather then the road they went in from.

[Andy_P]

The Google directions that mostdom showed are using TeleAtlas mapping, so if there is blame to be spread around, some should be headed in their direction.
TomToms and Google Maps are both going to be suggesting the same route if it's wrong on the TA database.

MS/"Bing" maps use Navteq, and their directions recommend a route which crosses the lake at a much narrower point some way further south. I would assume Garmin would be using Navteq mapping for that area too, so putting their picture on the Sun article is definitely a bit unfortunate.

[Guivre46]

Has anyone looked at the 855 map to see if the reservoir is shown, and if the route is still offered as viable?
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[MaFt]

[Guivre46]

I've reconsidered my reconsideration of TT's quarterly issuing of map updates. Not amending a change as major as this ie life threatening is beyond incompetent. A lack of respect for the well-being of your customers, to whom you proclaim you are offering a safer travel experience. Though of course there is nothing that says a TT was in use in this particular incident.
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[Skippy]

[Darren]

[mostdom]

[Guivre46]

[mostdom]

Just compared the google maps to Bing and MotionX terrain and they are upto date???

I even check the latest navigon maps and they don't show that road anymore.

Does anyone know who google use for mapping info?
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[Darren]

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