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Pocketgps
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Petition UK national speed limit Reply with quote

This is not my Petition.

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We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Not reduce the national speed limit to 50mph.


But not long to sign up now. Deadline to sign up by: 09 September 2009

Sign-up HERE if interested (opens in a new window).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just signed the petition but thought the DoT had already dropped the idea. The press office issued a consultation paper on 21 Apr HERE
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"To improve safety on rural roads, where 60% of all British road deaths happen, we propose annually to publish maps highlighting the main roads with the poorest safety records, encouraging local agencies to rapidly improve safety standards. We also propose to recommend to highway authorities that lower limits are adopted on single carriageways currently subject to 60 mph limit, where risks are relatively high and there is evidence that a lower limit would significantly reduce casualties. "
I've noticed that this is already happening and many good biking roads are being spoiled by unnecessary 50 limits and double white lines for miles.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the response: http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20803

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Thank you for your e-petition.

The Government is not proposing to reduce the national speed limit.

On 21st April the Government published a consultation on the new road safety strategy: A Safer Way: Consultation on Making Britain’s roads the Safest in the World, which closed on 14 July. It sought views on the vision, targets and measures for improving road safety in Great Britain in the period from 2010.

Regarding single carriageway roads where the national speed limit applies, the Government propose to revise our existing guidance to highway authorities, recommending that lower limits are adopted where risks are relatively high and there is evidence that a lower limit would reduce casualties.

The Government believes that this targeted approach is the best way to ensure that speed limits are set at the appropriate level for each road.

The Government will announce the results of the consultation at the end of the year.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, Highway authorities can do what they like Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep! the government aren't lowering the speed limit but are giving local authorities permission to do so...

great politicians answer!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
great politicians answer!!!

MaFt

Yep, and great political 'Don't blame me if it happens, blame someone else' answer so common with this discredited Government.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I think a general speed limit of 50 on single carriageway roads, with discretion to INCREASE the limit where safe to do so would be a good thing - I don't know many such roads round here where I am happy meeting someone coming at me at 60mph.

But the other side of MY coin is that motorway maximum limits could quite readily and safely be increased to 80 or 85 (fairly general on the continent, and seems almost the average speed when I'm on them anyway), but with much stricter enforcement against 'undertaking' and 'overtaking-lane hogging'.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, a typical Government response Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I like the bit
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where ... there is evidence that a lower limit would reduce casualties.
How do you get that? Lower the Limit?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It did not take long to make a start:
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Speed limits on hundreds of miles of Leicestershire roads are to be reassessed to try to cut serious accidents.

A two-year project will look at long and short stretches of roads where changes could be made to help cut fatalities and injuries.

Fifty-six people were killed in the county in 2008.

Leicestershire's busiest roads – such as the A47, A6, A46, A607 and A42 – will be given the highest priority as will those with the worst accident records.

In the county each road will be assessed individually with particular focus on accident rates, where crashes happen, road layouts, surrounding development and levels of congestion.


Speed limits on whole lengths or short sections of A, B or even residential C roads could be changed if it might help. Leicestershire County Council's cabinet is set to agree to the project next week.

County highways expert Ian Drummond said: "We want to make sure that people travel at the right speed and that the right speed limit is in the right place.

"To improve safety you have to convey the message that the speed limit is there for a reason and that it would be dangerous not to stick to it.

"We will take a measured approach to this, and we do not expect a whole raft of changes. We have to be sensible.

"Changing speed limits can be contentious, communities generally want them lower, but drivers will ignore them if they think they make no sense. We have to strike a balance."

The Government says that up to 85% of roads could be improved by reducing speed limits, which in turn could cut crashes.

Up to 416 miles or 671 kilometres of A and B roads will be reviewed in the county by the end of 2011.

Last year there were 705 accidents where 13% were thought to be speed related on these roads. Of the 81 accidents where someone was killed or seri ously injured, 20% were speed related.

Councillor Lesley Pendleton, cabinet member for highways and transport, said: "We want to reduce the number of road accidents, injuries and deaths caused by speeding and this review should help us achieve that."

The council is also trying several other measures to try to reduce road casualties.

For example, people killed in car crashes are to be profiled so safety campaigns can target those statistically most at risk of dying on our roads.

County council officials plan to use data such as age, where people live, the cars they drive, their profession, earnings and their family size in an attempt to cut road deaths, which rose to a five-year high last year.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Changing speed limits can be contentious, communities generally want them lower, but drivers will ignore them if they think they make no sense. We have to strike a balance."


sounds like they're relatively on the ball here though.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speed limits on whole lengths or short sections of A, B or even residential C roads could be changed if it might help.

Although they have allowed themselves the option of reducing speed limits just because it might help. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would like to see is an increase in certain areas, for example the A class roads around Lincolnshire are mostly NSL but single carriageways, this means HGV's travel at a much lower speed than cars. This causes frustration and often you see dangerous overtake manouvers, make the roads the same speed for both types of vehicle, this will increase road safety even if it does increase the average speed on the road it will lower the accident rate if it reduces the stupid overtaking you see all too often - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately Leics County Council as opposed to Leicester City Council do not appear to be a revenue gainng authority via Safety cameras by installing as many as possible,although many are sighted on roads that are perhaps straightish and even dual carriageways and capable of higher speed perhaps some could be considered for a higher speed rating,although in my view Leics County Council do concentrate more on safety than revenue, just wish more did then perhaps safety cameras would be more acceptable.
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