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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: TomTom One XL v2 GB Traffic Reply with quote

Hi,

I've just purchased a TomTom One XL v2 GB Traffic.

- I read before buying my unit that it had an sd card slot for expansion and bluetooth - but I can't see any sign of either on the device....please could anyone confirm if it does?

- Does my unit have the IQ Routes? - is that automatically enabled or manually enabled?

- When I bought it, it said it was HD Traffic ready - but when I click on LIVE services in TomTom home it says it's not supported by the device - can anyone confirm what the score is with this?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original XL did indeed have an SD card slot and Bluetooth for a data connection to a mobile phone (no handsfree), the newer units however do not have the SD Card slot or Bluetooth.

Your device will not have IQ Routes as this is only available on the higher spec Go devices.

The device will work with the HD Traffic receiver, however they are not currently available for use in the UK, as these accessories are locked to the country they are purchased in there is no point in buying one from Holland as it won't work in the UK.
If/ when the HD Receiver is made available for the UK market your device will work with it.
The only way to get Traffic data on your device currently is to purchase the RDS-TMC receiver with the mini USB connection - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I got the TMC receiver with it but i'm a bit dissapointed that it doesn't have an SD card slot or bluetooth - I have an unlimited data plan on my mobile so it would have been good to have the option of the Traffic add-on should I want it.

It sounds like i'd have been better off getting the original XL rather than the v2 Sad

Which models support the IQ Routing? - I take it if it's only the higher end ones then they will probably be well over the £100 mark though..

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any of the Go-x20, x30 or x40 products, in the case of the x20 units you do need to update both the software and maps to get the latest IQ Routes working on the unit, some of the x20 units have been retailing for around the £100 mark for the factory refurbished units (still get a 12 month warranty) see Here (I bet thats cheaper than what you payed for the XL, and its a much better spec device)
Oh and your RDS-TMC receiver will also work with the device I linked to above - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

That's interesting - that's pretty much the same price as I just paid for the XL - although the shipping adds another £10 on.

I got it from ebay so I can't send it back but I am wondering whether I could nearly get my money back by selling it again - it only arrived this morning so i've only tested it out on the way home - apart from that it's as new.

I'm not sure though whether it would be more economical to sell this complete and then buy a TMC receiver for the new one rather than selling it on without.

If I got that 520, does the IQ routing work without any further subscription?

Does it load the data on in advance or use your mobile and download at the time of planning?

Is there any disadvantage of the 520 over the XL v2? - is it the same screen as this one is really nice?

Is it the 520 you would recommend for that kind of budget then?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS: Can you point me to a good place to understand the comparison between models? - like what the 520 has that the XL doesn't, what the advantages of the 530/540 or 720 have over the 520?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want the IQ Routes then you have to switch to the Go range of devices, your XL is UK&ROI so the 520 is about the best value for money you can get with UK&ROI maps installed.

I will try and list what extras you will get with the 520 over and above the XL:

Handsfree for mobile phone
Bluetooth data via mobile phone
iPOD Connection
Audio Line out socket
FM Transmitter built in
Bluetooth HiFi Audio output
mp3 player
SD card slot
Voice recognition (use voice commands)
Text To Speech (it can read road names out)
Compatible with Bluetooth remote control
Itinerary Planning **
Full custom POI menu **
IQ Routes**
Reality View**
Lane Assist**

(** These features ARE in the latest XL models - A.P.)

If you move up the product range to the 720 you get all of the above but it has more built in memory and is supplied with Maps of Western & Central Europe.

The 920 has even more memory and is supplied with Maps of Western & Central Europe plus North America. It is also fitted with a system known as EPT which is for dead reckoning position whilst devoid of a GPS signal such as when in tunnels, and is supplied with the remote control in the box.

Move to the x30 range and there is no real difference between them and the x20, a few colour changes to the menu, but not much else that is noticeable.
If you move up the product range to the 720 you get all of the above but it has more built in memory and is supplied with Maps of Western & Central Europe.

The 920 has even more memory and is supplied with Maps of Western & Central Europe plus North America. It is also fitted with a system known as EPT which is for dead reckoning position whilst devoid of a GPS signal such as when in tunnels, and is supplied with the remote control in the box.

Move to the x30 range and there is no real difference beteen them and the x20, a few colour changes to the menu, but not much else that is noticable.

The newly introduced x40 range is quite different to the other units, it contains a GPRS modem which is used to download data whilst you are moving, this can be positional data from on-line searches, speed camera updates (Only the TT Data) and Live HD Traffic, after a few months of free access to this Live service you then have to pay each month.
Much better mount with the x40 as it is an active style holder making connection of the actual device easier. There are quite a number of additional new features with the x40 but I guess that can wait until it is formally reviewed - I don't want to spoil MikeB's write up by detailing the 940 too much in this thread! - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

Thanks for that - I think i'll go for that and sell my XL on ebay (although I dont know yet whether to sell it without the TMC receiver and end up getting less or sell it complete and buy a TMC receiver.

Does the IQ routing (on the 520) work without any further subscription?

Does it load the data on in advance or use your mobile and download at the time of planning?

Thanks

Ian
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry - another question Smile

Does the TMC receiver for the 520 use the mini-usb connector? - some of the ones on ebay look like they've got a jack plug in the picture but the one I got with the XL is a mini-USB. Will this one work ok on the 520?

(just ordered the 520!)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IQ Routes is based upon data within the map folder and is not subscription based (don't give them any ideas like this or it might be charged for next Cool ) The data connection via the mobile phone can be used for the subscription based Traffic service, Buddies, Weather etc.

The 520 running the latest Navcore software can use either of the RDS-TMC receivers.

When you get the device connect it to the PC and shut down the TomTom Home application, perform a full backup of the device to the PC using Windows Explorer.

Next connect it to the PC and use the Home application to register the device, please make sure you use a different e-mail address to the one you used for the previous device or it won't work correctly.

Update the software application (Navcore) on the device to the latest standard (currently 8,300)

Use the Latest Map Guarantee to update the map to the latest version available, you have 30 days to carry this out and it can only be used once - if you update the map the day you get the device and another map is released within the 30 day period you won't get the second one for free - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

That sounds great.

I'm just going to put the XL on ebay without the TMC receiver and see if I can get my money back on that.

Understood about the backup / upgrade procedure.

Why wont it work right if I use the same e-mail address / tomtom account though? - this morning with the XL I just used the same TomTom account I have had for years from my TomTom Navigator 6's. Are you saying I need to setup a new TomTom account? (why?)

Can I / do I need to de-register this XL from my account so the next owner can register it to theirs?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichilton wrote:
Can I / do I need to de-register this XL from my account so the next owner can register it to theirs?
Yes this would be advisable

As for using another e-mail address, well thats down to TomTom - each device needs its own e-mail address to work correctly with their registration/ activation system - using a unique e-mail address for each device will reduce the headache later on when you try to update the maps or purchase any subscription based services - Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

ok, I see - i'll use a different e-mail address and register a new account.

How do I de-activate this one before selling it?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Going back to the new one and what you said about the latest map guarentee, do you know when the current map was released or when the next one will come out?

I see that you can now get a subscription for £4.95/quarter but you seem to have to buy an updated map for about that when you sign up so it makes it nearly £25 for the year....I assume it's worth waiting at least 6 months or so before signing up for that or the initial payment will be wasted if you already have the latest map...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichilton wrote:
Hi,

Going back to the new one and what you said about the latest map guarentee, do you know when the current map was released or when the next one will come out?

Current (v815) maps were released November 11th 2008, and they come out ROUGHLY quarterly (previous ones were early September).
Next is due "soon"

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I see that you can now get a subscription for £4.95/quarter but you seem to have to buy an updated map for about that when you sign up so it makes it nearly £25 for the year....I assume it's worth waiting at least 6 months or so before signing up for that or the initial payment will be wasted if you already have the latest map...

No that's not how it works... You get an individual quotation depending on the age of your current map.
If you have the latest map now, then you don't pay for that aspect, just the 4 updates, bit if you have an older map then an amount is added on a sliding scale depending how old it is.

Sounds like you must have the v810 maps now, rather then the latest v815?
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