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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Digital Video Cameras that can use memory cards? Reply with quote

Darren, can you give me a link to camcorders using SD cards please - I'm very happy with my Panasonic DV cameras at present and need to look at what quality is available for solid state ones (the HDD one I tried from JVC was poor quality video and fell over when I sneezed). I haven't got HD Telly and want to continue using Pinnacle Studio Plus for editing etc. A few SDHC cards could be a brilliant move from DV tapes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Canon TX-1 which is a micro camera with HD camcorder functionality. I also know Sony, Sanyo, JVC and Panasonic have camcorders that have some SD supported cameras?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi as thinking of getting a TT720 and upgrading the sdcard to 4GB sdhc but what is the difference between a class 2, 4, or 6 the lad in a well known stationary store couldn't answer me on the difference.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Class is a measure of it's read/write speed with Class 6 being the best.

I'm not sure what if any speed is best for a 720, my camera required a Class 6 card as it has to write video files in HD to the card at very high speed and high data rates.

Hope that helps?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren thanks for that was not sure if it went up or down, like 1 being the top.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Camcorder SD cards, I have Canon 630i which uses dv tapes and can record to SD card but the recording to SD card is low resolution and if i remember only about 8 mins on a 2gb so be wary. not 100% sure about 8mins because only tried it once when i bought it and never bothered again.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Panasonic that does the same, completely pointless in most circumstances.

However my TX-1 will record 30 mins of full HD to an 8GB SDHC card and the quality from something little bigger than a pack of cigarettes is excellent.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sony DSC-T100 which is a digital stills camera, but as far as I know is still has the best video mode of any 'stills' camera on the market. In it I use a 2Gb sony memory stick which will give me an hour and a half of recordings in DVD quality.

I bought it because it was small so I could be quite active with it but is does suffer a little camera shake.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that because that apart from DV tapes the saved format for cards,HDD is so much compressed that editing becomes increasingly difficult, I have no first hand knowledge of this, so may stand to be corrected.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really couldn't be easier. Mine saves in .mpg format. Copy the file from card to PC, open in the edit application and bobs your uncle.

For tapes, the import to PC simply converts to .mpg format anyway so it is one process less and very easy then to archive video.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aj2052 wrote:
My understanding is that because that apart from DV tapes the saved format for cards,HDD is so much compressed that editing becomes increasingly difficult, I have no first hand knowledge of this, so may stand to be corrected.


Mine is much the same as darren, exept there can be issues with compression and formats.
With the .mpg files from my sony I need to clean the files slightly with Pinnacle studio before I can really do the cool stuff. To clean the files I load them all into Pinnacle and allow it to re-save them as .mpg but in it's own compression and format. Better software would probably solve that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I understood you lot!. Mine finishes up as .avi - is that a "good thing" or what? I just plug in the camera, start Pinnacle Studio, then capture the video from the camera via the firewire wire wire. Then Edit the movie. Then Create DVD Disk. And it works (well, sometimes Pinnacle falls over, so I save the Project every 27 seconds).

The only time I ever had .mpg, (from the JVC HD) the quality was pants.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch last weelends click most of the prog was on camcorders, if i remember it gives info on the various formats. i.e the highs and lows
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/default.stm
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DennisN wrote:
I wish I understood you lot!. Mine finishes up as .avi - is that a "good thing" or what? I just plug in the camera, start Pinnacle Studio, then capture the video from the camera via the firewire wire wire. Then Edit the movie. Then Create DVD Disk. And it works (well, sometimes Pinnacle falls over, so I save the Project every 27 seconds).

The only time I ever had .mpg, (from the JVC HD) the quality was pants.


Pinnacle does fall over a lot but I found this is due to it prefering its own file types. With a quick clean the program was much more stable.

If the .mpg of your JVC was poor it would probably be on the wrong quality settings. READ THE MANUAL Twisted Evil

PS: Nothing wrong with avi, as almost all other formats started life as an avi. It has something to do with compression types but I won't bore you!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try to win one here, and there is a link to the Canon page for that camera.
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