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Talex lite - Using the PocketGPSWorld database
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talexuser
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, the hardware is generic Korean? and several people use the same unit with minor cosmetic changes to distinguish them. The voice chip is seperate and according to the datasheet you may be able to record your own messages. So again bulk buyers can program a difference to the competition. It looks as if nothing is built from scratch in this country anymore and the skill involved is having a good database and the software expertise to program it Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamesjrl was kind enough to send me a copy of the indic8tor firmware. After having a quick look at it, it seems the database format is completely different to the talex/novus. It also seems to be a lot smaller. It's quite possible they simply added a better 'encryption' scheme than the talex, but either way I can't see any regular pattern in the data. The firmware would have to be decompiled in order to understand it.

However, the fact that it runs talex firmware shows that the hardware must be very similar. With effort, the voice chip could be desoldered, a programming circuit designed and new voices added, but considering the time and effort that would need to be invested, you'd probably be better off just buying a talex instead :p

Since the indic8tor can run the talex firmware (albeit with sound issues) then you could install the talex/novus firmware and then install the PGPSW database once I have it finished. Everything is in place to start converting the database, I just need a copy of it Razz I'm going back to university tomorrow and have tests on Friday, so it will take a while before I can finish off this project. But having invested so much time it (easily 50 plus hours), I'm not going to be giving up any time soon Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I for one am very appeciative of your time and effort and I look forward to having a decent database on my Talex at some point Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah - just noticed I've been given access to download the database now... thanks very much guys Smile

I'll set it converting night. I've already got all my local points processed and I'm going to put them onto my talex now and give it a go tonight. Hopefully it'll work Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silentwol wrote:
But having invested so much time it (easily 50 plus hours), I'm not going to be giving up any time soon Wink

Well done. I suspect that you have spent rather more than 50 hours, probably considerably more. Keep us posted, and good luck with your tests on Friday.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ditto well done, you've done a great service for talex buyers, and if it all works a greater income stream for the pocket gps group - surely worth a lifetime subscription? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

talexuser wrote:
surely worth a lifetime subscription? Very Happy


Wink Wink

Just flashing the talex with my generated points from the PGPSW database (only for my local area). I'm going to test it tonight and if it works, I'll set the whole database converting. That'll take a few days to finish (rough estimate is 40 hours and I won't be able to leave it on 24/7). Once it's been converted only new additions to the database with have to be generated, so it shouldn't be too much of a burden on my computer Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Well done Reply with quote

Yes, must add a well done also, impressive work and i think this method of pre processing camera locations could turn out to be far more useful than originally planned. To increase accuracy on other devices also (eg, tomtom etc).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The database has finished converting and I've got a test version ready - just need to talk with MaFt about releasing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent Very Happy

I for one will be extremely grateful for your time and effort. You will have saved me from buying a cheap SatNav once my Talex subs run out in May.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news chaps

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're currently testing in a closed Beta group, as soon as we're happy its all working we'll let ya all know Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers darren, hows it going ?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

knobbycamstopper wrote:
Cheers darren, hows it going ?

I'm not involved so don't know Embarassed I'll ask MaFt if he has any update!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

silentwol has got the first stage working in as much as the Talex is reporting the location of all PGPSW camera types on the Talex.

Currently the investigations are around :

    Only report cameras on the correct side of the road
    Report the actual camera type


Once that is OK the next stage will likely be:

    Produce the various 'bongs' when approaching and under the limit and also once the camera is passed.


I suspect there is quite a bit of work to do
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