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davideps
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: data accuracy calculation & truth checking Reply with quote

Hello,


I am trying to check the accuracy of some maps I've created in ARCGIS by comparing them to field GPS measurements. I am using a MIO Digiwalker P550 hardware and IGO software. I imported my waypoints (POIs) into ArcGIS using IGO Waypoint Explorer Beta, exporting as a CSV list and importing x,y coordinates. My ARCGIS maps are in a projected reference system (Israel TM grid).

There is a discrepancy of between 50 and 125 meters. Could this be some sort of import (reference system) problem? I am not sure which data to trust more. I am open to comments and suggestions.


thank you in advance,
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum.

The GPS system uses WGS84 which is based on the globe as a whole. A lot of countries have localised systems (probably much older) that are more suited to the local area. Therefore, they are probably both "correct" but different "correct"s.

I would suspect the Israel TM system is similar to the UK's OSGB system as both are long and thin therefore a projected reference is suitable. As WGS84 is global, no projections are used though. This would explain the difference between the two.

It's best to work with one system though I don't know of any converters between them - if you find one, use it. Either check to see whether your hardware/software has a converter to the Israel TM system or source a map that's already in WGS84 would be my best advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: thank you Reply with quote

Gerry,

Thank you for your response. Two more quick questions, if you have a moment:

1) Are all GPS systems WGS84?
2) Can't I just change the datum using ArcGIS? Mathematically such a conversion is possible, correct?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WGS84 is the datum of the data sent by the GPS satellites.

As long as the Mio is capable of showing ArcGIS datum co-ordinates, that should be OK. As you say, it's doing the conversions internally. I have no idea what it can do though.

Alternatively, you could do the conversions separately. This site (Google search) appears to have a program that converts to "Israel TM" though I'm sure there's others.

You should not have a problem as long as both the GPS receiving device and the map are using the same datum.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: thank you Reply with quote

davideps wrote:
Gerry,

Thank you for your response. Two more quick questions, if you have a moment:

1) Are all GPS systems WGS84?
2) Can't I just change the datum using ArcGIS? Mathematically such a conversion is possible, correct?

-david


1/ All GPS systems will use WGS84. You should be able to use other datum systems on the unit as well but any data you transfer to or download from your GPS will be WGS84.

2/ For point locations this is possible - it should be possible to get the equations you need. If you are defining shapes then these will be deformed slightly as the map projection may not be the same in one co-ord system to another.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: reference? Reply with quote

Thank you Gerry and Phil. I'll play with the conversion a little and see how it goes.

Do either of you (or anyone else) know a good online reference for truth/ground checking with GPS?

-david
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