Hi! We see you’re using an ad-blocker. We’re fine with that and won’t stop you visiting the site.
But as we’re losing ad-revenue from this then why not make a donation towards website running costs?. Or you could disable your ad-blocker for this site. We think you’ll find our adverts are not overbearing!
Sorry if this is too tangential, but I'm in the US using TomTom Navigator 6 on my HTC Kaiser (ATT TILT). It receives traffic updates (in beta) via the cell signal (not FM).
Is this unique to the US? To Navigator? I will move to EU in July, will my Navigator 6 be able to get traffic updates via the cell signal?
Is the trend in the direction of sending traffic updates via cell signal (instead of via FM signal)?
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:07 am Post subject:
Not unique at all, Tomtom have a PLUS subscription service in Europe that delivers TMC data to PocketPC or TMC capable PND via a supported BT equipped cellphone.
It is the same data as is broadcast over FM for RDS-TMC/FM equipped devices. _________________ Darren Griffin
Joined: 09/07/2003 15:43:18 Posts: 3 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: TT GO920T Review
A great big thank you Darren for an comprehensive and interesting review, a lot of effort must have gone into that!
Just a couple of questions please ... is it possible to buy a mains charger - and are screen "shades" available for the GO 920 ??
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:
Thanks for the kind comments. The x20's use a standard mini-USB connection for charging so any mans mini-USB charger that conforms to spec will suffice.
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: 920 t In depth Revue
Thank you from the Bottom of my heart for this Revue.I have had my 920t for a week now and had graduated from the Original Go,(still working wonderfully but I needed the maps.)I am 100% happy with my new 920t BUT here we go on the same old story TomToms lack of clear instruction and rubbish TomTom Home,(took 5 attempts to upgrade Maps as TomTom kept dropping line,did it overnight in the end,works only some times it will not be too long I think before I abandon it,) again ,thanks to this Forum showing me ways around it.
GPS World cameras drop nicely into map folder quick easy and reliable,and updated very regularly.This turns the 920s into the ultimate GPS in my view.
I was really struggling with some aspects of the set up,and recomend any one with this Satnav to read this report and print it off it has cleared up a mine field of small niggles that were spoiling this lovely new toy.This is the first place I have seen how to use the Remote,and many other aspects.Thank you again.Noah.
Not unique at all, Tomtom have a PLUS subscription service in Europe that delivers TMC data to PocketPC or TMC capable PND via a supported BT equipped cellphone.
It is the same data as is broadcast over FM for RDS-TMC/FM equipped devices.
Forgive me Darren, but don't TT themselves even, more than emphasise that the data for Wireless Traffic is very different (and more exhaustive) than the data for RDS-TMC Traffic.
On their site they state things like (in relation to Wireless Traffic as opposed to RDS-TMC Traffic):
"Most accurate and up-to date traffic information from the best available sources "
"The use of wireless data connection means that you get the best quality traffic information possible, 24 hours a day, all year round"
"The use of wireless data connection means the number of messages that you can receive at any one time is not limited" ("RDS-TMC has a limited number of messages")
"Information on weather & road conditions" (Which is not available via RDS-TMC)
"TomTom is able to provide more accurate information than the TMC and is not limited to the Alert-C protocol that is used for RDS-TMC"
And finally:
"The quality of the RDS-TMC information is dependent on factors such as the FM radio signal which means that TomTom cannot guarantee the continuity and quality of the information. However, TomTom has selected the best providers to ensure the best radio reception"
So I am sure a lot of it might be marketing spin.
But certainly though mate, Wireless Traffic, and RDS-TMC Traffic, offer very different levels of information, frequency, coverage, and services.
The question is, whether you trust EITHER enough to use it. When out of the area, I tend to favour what Wireless Traffic tells me, as I can't really use my better judgement.
But in my local area, and the usual Tyneside jams, I often find that unless it really is the peak of rush hour, the info TomTom supplies is usually over cautious in terms of the time delay etc.
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14888 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: 920 t In depth Revue
noah wrote:
Thank you from the Bottom of my heart for this Revue.
Aaaaah! Now you've made Darren go all embarrassed.
Seriously, thank you for posting this. It is sadly a none too often occasion when somebody comes in with full blooded thanks and praise. We know that hundreds (thousands?) of people do get this result all the time, but it makes such a difference to the "helpers" to hear a few words of thanks. Stay with us, then when the day comes that you are another Smartypants like so many others, you can pass on your own words of wisdom to the next generation of beginners, just as the earlier people did for us.
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14888 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:
shadamehr wrote:
Darren wrote:
It is the same data as is broadcast over FM for RDS-TMC/FM equipped devices.
Forgive me Darren, but don't TT themselves even, more than emphasise that the data for Wireless Traffic is very different (and more exhaustive) than the data for RDS-TMC Traffic.
Rubbish. What Darren said is the data is the same on both data transmission systems. Are you suggesting that TomTom suggest that they will broadcast a traffic jam on the M4 over GPRS but not over RDS-TMC, or that they'll clear a jam from GPRS but not from RDS-TMC? We all know there's a difference in that the GPRS broadcasts whole country coverage, whereas RDS-TMC broadcasts the local area.
But what Darren said is absolutely spot on - it's the same data. Captain_Eric asked if cellphone (as opposed to FM) broadcast was available in EU, Darren said "Yes". What's dubious about that? _________________ Dennis
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject:
Much of TT's marketing spin is relevant only to services in mainland Europe where TMC data can come from a variety of sources, premium and free. In those cases they supply data from the premium source to subscribers via their GPRS feeds.
Here it does not apply as TMC data is from the same source (until HD arrives) and any differences are likely as a result of technical issues rather than any conscious decision on TT's part to offer different data feeds. _________________ Darren Griffin
Why you biting my head of, then thinking what you can drop into the gaping maw that is left of my neck?
**
Seriously though, short of capitalising the first word "Rubbish" I see little way your response could be more direct and challenging.
Irrespective of which, given that it is clear as day that the info I post are direct quotes from TomTom's site, if it is "rubbish", then your misguided response of such is simply then to THEM, not me, so I don't feel any affront or offence in any way **
What's with all the animosity round this forum...
AndyP - can you not inject some of your calm and love from your site into here, or Mcwarre, can you not show them what a nice place Modaco is etc. as I don't think a more informative site for sat-nav exists on the whole planet than this place, that's not being patronising, it's a simple fact. But a more hostile forum...? God I've been a member of hundreds over the years, and the friction on here is enough to stop a runaway Scania Artic. Rig... Seriously guys, with Great Power, great responsibility also comes and all that. Love, peace, hugs, and smiles everyone.
On a serious note though, then even if the data is the very same, from the very same source, even TomTom point out that RDS-TMC is restrictive in terms of the NUMBER of channels or incidents that can be passed, and the frequency of it, compared to Wireless Traffic.
Thus, whilst the point about the data source being different is not correct then, the ENTIRE ETHOS for my post, to warn the reader of the limitation of one compared to the other, was WHOLLY correct still.
So certainly no need for the post starting straight off with the word "Rubbish".
Dennis mate, relax. We are all most grateful for ALL the work people like you and Darren etc do round here - voluntary at that, on top of driving for a living etc, as you do.
My post was in NO way an attack on Darren, or ever yourself for that matter..
More than anything it was to point out to the poster above it that differences DO exist between RDS-TMC Traffic, and Wireless Traffic.
That the data source is not the difference is fair enough, but takes ZILCH away from the fact that overall, the end result IS different, now does it?
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject:
I don't think your experience of our forums reflects that of the vast majority of other users. I know you've been on the receiving end of few unnecessarily heated replies here in the past, perhaps we're just guilty of misconstruing the intent of some of your posts on occasion? They can be very wordy
However, despite your experience, I am certain that the vast majority of the members here find our little corner a very welcoming and helpful place to spend time. _________________ Darren Griffin
I have found that the road I was asking about in Cornwall is on the new 715 map, so it's all systems go for a new TT 920. As it will probably come with a 710 map, is it possible to get a CD of the 715 map, rather than rely on TT's rather dubious download service through Home? I have only got a 5GB / month connection, so a few failed downloads will use up my month's allowance.
Btw, I failed to thank Darren for the review, so thanks m8 - great review, much appreciated.
Posted: Today Post subject: Pocket GPS Advertising
We see you’re using an ad-blocker. We’re fine with that and won’t stop you visiting the site.
Have you considered making a donation towards website running costs?. Or you could disable your ad-blocker for this site. We think you’ll find our adverts are not overbearing!
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Or you could disable your ad-blocker for this site. We think you’ll find our adverts are not overbearing!
Hi! We see you’re using an ad-blocker. We’re fine with that and won’t stop you visiting the site.
But as we’re losing ad-revenue from this then why not make a donation towards website running costs?. Or you could disable your ad-blocker for this site. We think you’ll find our adverts are not overbearing!
Forum FAQ
Search
Usergroups
Profile
Log in for private messages
Log in
) Demo route from southbound J22 Its still 60 mph all the way from J22 to about 3 miles away from J25...
A great big thank you Darren for an comprehensive and interesting review, a lot of effort must have gone into that!
