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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah you mean inlike our countdown markers that are in metres whereas our speed limits are still in MPH


That also anoyed me when setting up my satnav which can only be set to either imp or metric and cannot be mixed, like wit devices of old. I can either have kilometers and meters, or miles and yards. I nearly cried when I heard the device pronounce yards.
I want miles and meters like my old satnav Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if I remember correctly, don't you come from somewhere near where we used to ship people like this? Wink


Touché Laughing

Yeah, send them all down to New Zealand, that'll teach them. No one there understands imperial measures anymore! They'll soon learn to use metrics!

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at least we're not as bad as the Irish who, at one time, had some signs in metric and others in imperial to really confuse the hell out of people.


Yes, that was VERY strange for a while. I remember the changeover to metric in New Zealand and they did it in a matter of weeks.

The biggest objection I have to changing to metric speed limits is that they will use the changeover to lower the speed limit everywhere. ie, a 50 MPH area will become 70 km/h (about 42 MPH) rather than 80 km/h.

I really fail to see what the metric system has to do with the Germans, it was the French who invented it.... Rolling Eyes

Being a foreigner by birth (though now a European citizen) I do find it bizzare that whenever something regarding Europe comes up, a certain section of English people come out with the school boy taunt "We won the war, nah, nah, na nah na".

And the references to Nazi Germany being the same as the EU, I really don't understand. Are these people so poorly educated to not know the history of how and why the EU was formed? Do they not understand what their fathers and grandfathers fought and died for?

Over 60 years ago, a great leader said this: "We must build a kind of United States of Europe. In this way only will hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life worth living".

Guess who it was, I'll give you a hint - it wasn't Adolf Hitler...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah you mean inlike our countdown markers that are in metres whereas our speed limits are still in MPH


I want miles and meters like my old satnav Evil or Very Mad


I don't mind using meters or yards because they are close enough in distance. On a motorway count down, 400 meters is about 450 yards which is close enough for most people's perception. Ask someone to point to something 400 yards/meters away and they will probably be +/- 100 yards/meters in their estimation anyway.

What I hate is when the sat nav says 1700 feet or some such thing. I can't deal with that at all!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..............Like others here, I'm bi (in this instance) and have taught my children some of it, too. It's funny hearing one of the kids ask for the loan of ten bob.


I gave my children "old" £-s-d currency to play with when young and one of the favourite Christmas party games (with other children as well as mine) was converting to metric and back again.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future."

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"Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb."

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought - Imperial against Metric (or both mixed side by side)

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A love for tradition has never weakened a nation, indeed it has strengthened nations in their hour of peril.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off subject - if that's possible on Off Topic, but i thought this quote rather good, telling us of Sir Winston Churchill's experience in the Navy.

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Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.


Sir Winston Churchill,
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash.

Well at least the Navy has stopped using the lash ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be wrong, but I thought I heard that they'd stopped the rum as well...I'll check with someone who knows and confirm this
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed it did, ended in 1970 so i have just discovered.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

31st July 1970 to be precise - but I wanted to confirm this before making a complete fool of myself Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I see, here we go again. Don't mention the war, don't mention Hitler, let's change history. It all never happened of course, it's all a ploy by those who don't want an EU State or metric to put their case across to fool the people.

It appears you are only allowed to comment in this post if you are a Pro European or pro metric.

Almost time to 'Stop watching this post'.

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Ah you mean inlike our countdown markers that are in metres whereas our speed limits are still in MPH

To get off the motorway the normal procedure is to look for the first advance warning sign (1 mile from the exit). This sign gives the exit number and the road number.

At half a mile from the exit a second sign identifies the towns for the exit. Then at 300 yards from the deceleration lane there is a three line countdown marker, (at this point you should begin to signal left to say you are turning off - but don't slow down yet), followed by the 200 yd and 100 yd marker signs. Only when you have crossed into the deceleration lane should you begin to slow down.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost_Property wrote:
Don't mention the war, don't mention Hitler, let's change history. It all never happened of course, it's all a ploy by those who don't want an EU State or metric to put their case across to fool the people.


Maybe I'm missing something. Can you explain to me what Hitler has got to do with the metrification of the UK?

As for you drawing parallels between the Third Reich and the European Union, I find this extremely distasteful and an insult to those who gave their lives fighting for our freedom.

Feel free to make accurate historical references (including to Hitler, if it is indeed relevant to this discussion), but suggesting that people here are trying to change history shows that you are grotesquely ignorant of your own history and the history of the European Union. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost_Property wrote:
.........Almost time to 'Stop watching this post'.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooops, Embarassed sorry i'm not trying to start trouble, if i had known Lost_Property was going to get a reply i would have stayed out with the extra quote, i was just carrying on with the Sir Winston Churchill quotes.

I wrote this earlier but was chatting before i hit the submit button and didn't notice the reply.

I never expected a subject on Imperial or metric to get so heated. Shocked

Is it worth all this exchange Question
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