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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:21 am Post subject:
Stargate2006 wrote:
No I don't trust any party government and I never vote any party government all my life since I was a baby to now, because the reason why, everytime you belive them to vote that to make the government become famous and then later on a week later the government change the subject around and you blow it, well now don't trust the government until they listen to all of us the real problem and is time the government stop being greedy pinching moneys off all of us to pay off the government life style.
It give me a bad headache the government act like a Paris Hilton life style
If you don't use your vote, you have no right to complain. _________________ Tim
I don't trust any party government the rest of the world and the government have no right not allow to force many peoples to vote, it peoples choice freedom weather to vote or not..
The government is greedy of moneys and power.
I know lot's of things going on around, I am ex-actor myself and have see happened those things damage to many poor hard worker peoples of crisis problem that the government don't care about it.
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Cheltenham
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:
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If you don't use your vote, you have no right to complain
Withholding your vote can be just as valid as voting for the opposition and in some instances more so. In all honesty who would want to vote for any of the 2 major parties; or the 3 major parties if you consider that Liberal have any chance with the electorate what-so-ever? I don't have any confidence in any of them.
Tony Blair and his Labouring Cronies came to power after the downfall of the Conservatives (remember how relieved we all felt at the time) and now after 10 years of hearing the rhetoric of Labour and living through their false promises and deceit also, we are being forced to accept 'Brown' as our primeminister because they (Socialist/Conservative party) are to afraid to allow the voters their say. Well don't we just deserve it? Whilst our ministers, time and time again get away with wasting public money by the bucket loads, being inept in most of what they do, are proven deceitful and wholly dishonest, but get to live and travel in luxury at tax payers expense. We, the humble tax payer, home owner, car driver of course, are the one's who pay for their ineptness and life styles.
There remains no decent public transport alternative to the car. Successive government policies have meant that people are being forced to travel more by car not less. Our town and villages have lost their local services, post offices, shops whatever as giant supermarkets spread surrounding the outskirts of our towns competing with each other and killing off our communities. Where once upon a time one parent went to work and one stayed at home, now both parents must go to work, both needing a car each. There are some many reasons why the roads are in such chaos these days but only one reason why the government is cashing in on it. Because if is a very lucrative form of tax! By the way, parents parking around school's blocking payments and roads pose a far greater risk to children coming out of school's than the motorist with a clear view of the road ahead of him driving past a school. Why not create proper pick up points i.e. with off road parking at the schools for this purpose rather than sell off the school land for new housing?
Don't kid yourself that government are seeking to improve the road situation by implementing 20mph speed limits and such like, they are not. Just like they are not spending money on alternative means of transport. All we are seeing are a proliferation of road signs, complicated road junctions (stupid little painted roundabouts), road calming measures and of course a greatly increasing number of 'gatzo's and mobile speed camera devices. When first introduced they were supposed to be placed at high risk areas to save lives. Now of course they have become revenue raisers and are places solely where they raise the most cash with the government simply changing the law to fit their purpose.
You would think that motorists are the cause of all accidents, they are not. What about the child left to play on the streets whilst the parents are at work or down the pub? And of course there are few playgrounds for our kids now. What about the irresponsible pedestrian who runs out in front of the car? The cyclist with no lights on his bike or without signalling pulls out in front of a car? Statistic can be used to prove whatever you want it to prove or justify whatever cause and boy does our government take advantage of this.
Why is it Prescot needed 3 Jags? Did he need this many? Perhaps he did so he could pick up his cronies for a game of crochet on the lawn of Tax Payers Mansion. How many ££'s per hour were we paying him whilst he was out of work whilst still employed by us. Aren't we still paying for Blair to jet off around the World on his Goodbye Tour, leaving a great wake of carbon emissions behind him. Shouldn't we just be saying Good Riddance to him instead and save the tax payers money. After all, he has cost this country enough in lives and money in Iraq already. And at the end of his failed attempts to become President Blair and to follow in the footsteps of Mr Bush he is now set to make a fortune from it all whilst we carry on the burden of paying for his protection.
You can bet your cotton socks that Gordon Brown is going to woo us all in the coming months with the sole intention of winning the next general election, so that he can begin his solo career as our primeminister. As usual we will swallow his deceit for what alternative is there? only to feel disgruntled when after his election we find we find its what he didn't say that really matters, because its what he didn't say that will becomes the new excuse for raising taxes.
Perhaps if we were to look at the statistics of speeding offences and fines that have been imposed on motorist since cameras and mobile detectors vans came about and compare them to the number of convictions for say drug use, mugging, burglary etc etc. we will find that the humble motorist is by far the greatest crimminal in our society today and all because we were just a few miles over the limit.... We should not need to use detectors to play this cat and mouse game. Put the police back on the roads in high visibility rather than secrete a camera hidden in someway to catch a motorist out for some minor speed violation because its more lucrative than catching thiefs. I resent the idea of being caught and fined for being one or two miles over the limit. I would have more rights as a crimminal caught commiting a real crime than as a driver caught speeding. As a crimminal I would have immediate access to a solicitor and defense council for a starter. As a motorist I get a NIP saying pay up and accept the imposed fine without question, case proven. This is not justice..
So no, I will not be voting for the deceit of would be Primeministers or their parties of any colour. I am fed up with the lies and deceit. Its about time we as a nation told our government what we expect from them..
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14889 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:
nuttynurse wrote:
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If you don't use your vote, you have no right to complain
So no, I will not be voting for the deceit of would be Primeministers or their parties of any colour. I am fed up with the lies and deceit. Its about time we as a nation told our government what we expect from them..
There's a saying which I can't remember exactly, goes something like this "All it takes for tyranny to take over the world, is for all the good men to keep silent". In 1997 when G Brown said if elected he'd stick with the Tory budget, I promptly withheld my vote and see where that got me! I don't recall if A Blair said if elected they'd stick with the Tory policies. If you don't vote, the activists who do vote get into POWER, which is what they're after.
Apologies to Darren for encouraging the OFF TOPIC theme. _________________ Dennis
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 2789 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject:
nuttynurse wrote:
crochet on the lawn of Tax Payers Mansion
I think you meant croquet - but seeing John Prescott with crochet needles may actually be more amusing than a croquet mallet
If parents are responsible for obese children, who is to blame for obese politicians?
Back onto the topic in question...
Our local paper recently ran a headline about 20mph zones outside all schools, playgrounds and other places where there are likely to be children.
This, I have some sympathy with - however:
1) why can 20mph limits not be variable (as with M25 and other roads) so that the speed limit reverts to 30mph (or what it is at present) at "off peak" times?
2) what ever happened to the Green Cross Code? _________________ Andy
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject:
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GPS_fan wrote:
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2) what ever happened to the Green Cross Code?
Exactly, what happened to it?
What indeed...
It seems that the current trend is to blame and punish the motorist even though crashes involving pedestrians are the pedestrian's fault ~80% of the time. Slowing traffic down will just make them more complacent about the risks of crossing the road. _________________ Gone fishing!
Joined: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 226 Location: Cheltenham
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:
The government killed off the "Green Cross Code" when they realised there was money to be made from dead pedestrians. Thats why they are creating so many obstacles on the roads for the driver to contend with and why they want us to look at our speedo's and not the road. Either way they cant lose. If we look at the speedo to nervously stay within the strictly imposed speed limit, we will probably run into a pedestrian cause our eyes weren't on the road. And if we keep our eyes on the road we will undoubtable stray above the limit and get a fine and points especially as there is no tolerance allowed. Well, not for the ordinary folk anyway. I can well imagine that they have a Ministry for the Persecution of Motorists with hidden Portfolio.
It would be nice to see the government and enforcement agencies put as much determination into the pursuit of crime today as they do into the pursuit of the motorist. "Tough on Crime. Tough on the Causes of Crime". What a joke that slogan has proven to be. "Tough on Motorist" would paint a truer picture, I suggest. Ask yourself where else in our community today do you see so much resources spent. The Police, when they existed in our communities and on our roads had descretionary powers, no wonder they now sit in their stations all day and play cricket in the corridors at night. Why then are we paying to have Community Beat Officers on the beat rather than the Police Officer? Why are we paying to have Detector van's manned by civilians rather than the Police Traffic Patrol Vehicles? You lot may want to vote in a government that resembles the administration of the 'Sheriff of Nottingham. I'm saving my vote for 'Robin Hood'
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14889 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject:
GPS_fan wrote:
2) what ever happened to the Green Cross Code?
I don't know what/if they teach anything these days, but last night we took grandson's birthday present over to his house - a nice new bike. The tyres needed pumping up, so I took him out to my van to get the footpump and had to cross the road. So I asked him when it would be safe and he did the full business (left, right, left again) several times, telling me "No, not yet" and eventually led me across very safely. Probably his mum to thank for that. _________________ Dennis
God I believe the nuttynurse was right and also DennisN as well.
Classy56,
What do you mean, you would money on that for what of ! Are you a fan of John Prescot with 3 Jags for a free ride.
Sorry I am not really interested to vote any parties government and you should know this the government is greedy of money and power and love the limelight too much of fame like a Paris Hilton lifestyle spend billions silly thing of it. enough is enough for this of wasting all of us tax payer moneys for nothing. Go Green is a joke, what about Badadad go Green, guess not, it not going to be easy doing this to Zillions of peoples. Is all's the government peoples going to walk or on bike to work, no it won't, it always on government car a free ride all the times forever to a zillions years and waste of moneys on jets for a free ride and free hotel and free foods pay off by millions of us the tax payer moneys as well. Sack all the government peoples of wasting tax payer moneys for a free ride. Grrrrrrrr
Bring the "Green Cross Code" back to teach the kids from parent and teacher to learn to be told always stop to look left and right to cross the road to stop causing more trouble on the motorist and motorbikes as well.
what is wrong going on about ENGRISH of English here, do you mean me here, I am a white guy born in England.
And mostdom, don't start go on about spake fluent jibberish here, please talk common sense here to talk about of government not listen, life problem, kids not bother to stop to look life and right of cause accident to motorist and motorbike, etc .
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