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shady1
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Stolen Satnavs Reply with quote

Might just be me but with todays technology would u not think it would be possible for the makers to install a tracker chip or is that way ahead of them :/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cost to much, and if it was possible , you would have to pay to register it..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Stolen Satnavs Reply with quote

shady1 wrote:
Might just be me but with todays technology would u not think it would be possible for the makers to install a tracker chip or is that way ahead of them :/


Of course its possible, havent you heard of vehicle tracking systems. Whats your point?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Stolen Satnavs Reply with quote

shady1 wrote:
Might just be me but with todays technology would u not think it would be possible for the makers to install a tracker chip or is that way ahead of them :/

It's entirely possible but would require a GSM Phone Module to transmit the location and a valid SIM and account. The cost would be prohibitive. It's difficult enough to sell such technology to owners of cars worth tens of thousands of pounds!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All it needs is a "secret" buddy. Tom Tom could set up a hidden buddy that would notify a trusted satnav, using the existing buddy function. As soon as a stolen unit was paired with gprs, the location would be transmitted to the "buddy". Sure, many wouldn't be paired, but enough would be that the scroats would get the message that stolen TomToms were being located.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomDavison wrote:
All it needs is a "secret" buddy. Tom Tom could set up a hidden buddy that would notify a trusted satnav, using the existing buddy function. As soon as a stolen unit was paired with gprs, the location would be transmitted to the "buddy". Sure, many wouldn't be paired, but enough would be that the scroats would get the message that stolen TomToms were being located.


That sounds like a simple solution.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....If your TomTom was stolen/lost/whatever, you could contact TomTom as such and next time that device did an update on their server it could send a message back to the unit telling it to switch off and never come back on. This is how some car trackers work, financially though it makes sense for a car of say, £20,000+ to do this, but not a SatNav of a few hundred.

Could also be factored into the TomTom Home software, so that if you connected the device via that it also disabled the unit.

A little far fetched, but it could even navigate only to the nearest police station.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all. WhenI had my first tt 300 stolen I contacted TomTom to ask if there was a way to disable it. They just replied "no". But why is there no password protection to satnavs? It would be cheap and easy. Just like all mobile 'phones.

Seems simple to me. But what do I know!! Wink

regards, Clive.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dejaycejay wrote:
Hi all. WhenI had my first tt 300 stolen I contacted TomTom to ask if there was a way to disable it. They just replied "no". But why is there no password protection to satnavs? It would be cheap and easy. Just like all mobile 'phones.

Seems simple to me. But what do I know!! Wink

regards, Clive.

We ll there is password protection on newer models but such protection has done nothing to prevent the theft of mobiles!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose there are a lot of solutions for this problem, but after your unit gets stolen TomTom and all the other Brands know that by the time your insurance or next pay packet arrives you will out there purchasing another one.
So, as far as they are concerned, wheres the problem?.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best way to avoid/prevent thieving scum is to not let them see your 'hidden' sat nav so that the thieving bastards can't take them.

I've had a mobile phone since around 1993 and never had one lost or stolen, I've had a portable sat nav since July 2004 and never had that stolen either.

If you give them no chance of taking it then they can't.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted Evil So it benefits the manufacturers when they are stolen....

Now they wouldn't, would they? Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dejaycejay wrote:
Twisted Evil So it benefits the manufacturers when they are stolen....

Now they wouldn't, would they? Wink

Clive.


I seriously doubt it Clive. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dejaycejay wrote:
Hi all. WhenI had my first tt 300 stolen I contacted TomTom to ask if there was a way to disable it. They just replied "no". But why is there no password protection to satnavs? It would be cheap and easy. Just like all mobile 'phones.

Seems simple to me. But what do I know!! Wink

Clive.


Very little apparently, such as the fact that passwords and even stolen phone registers that disable stolen phones, have done nothing to stop theft of mobiles, so why would it be any different for GPS systems?

My tomtom has an excellent antitheft system, its free, its available to all at no cost, it has worked flawlessly for the past 3 years.

Its called the 'never ever ever leave it in your car alone even for one minute' system. If everyone implemented this system, theft rates would drop as close to zero as makes no difference. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you didnt use this system when your TT was stolen?

And for the future you'd prefer to use the 'fix it with complex technology that doesn't in any case work' solution, rather than the one I referred to?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tumbleweed wrote:
Its called the 'never ever ever leave it in your car alone even for one minute' system. If everyone implemented this system, theft rates would drop as close to zero as makes no difference.


So there you are walking down the road with your satnav in your pocket, the scumbag has just seen you get out of your car with it.
So now i get to thinking that in reality most phones get stolen by robbery from the person or mugging, whatever you like to call it, so whats the difference with your satnav?.
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