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Should UK Motorcycle Police Use Speed Cameras Hidden in Their Helmets?
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RobBrady
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Miniaturized Speed Cameras Hidden In Helmets Reply with quote

Motorcycle police riders in the Mediterranean city of Montpellier, France are testing speed cameras hidden in their helmets.

The police commander behind the initiative, Captain Didier Gurnot said "We film what's going on in front of us and can immediately send by radio the licence plate of the vehicle committing the offence".

The unmarked motorcycles allow French officers to hide themselves among other motorists and to issue tickets without having to pull the offender over.

Gurnot added that the use of an unmarked motorbike and rider meant motorists were unaware they were being spied upon and therefore could not warn other drivers of a police presence by flashing their lights, as they otherwise often do.

UK police forces have been watching developments with interest and are considering introducing the idea here.

Good or bad idea, what do you think?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bad idea IMO because a large part of the anti-speeding campaigns is based on their visibility. Another factor is the machinery used. Gatsos, mobile cameras and VASCAR are all calibrated systems that give accurate results (most of the time). Will the speed tracking system with these helmets be calibrated in the same way?

If a ticket was issued this way, the evidence would have to be acceptable to the courts if the ticket was challenged.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole idea simply stinks of corruption. Hide and fine – raise cash. Who givesa damn about road safety. If the police introduced a policy where they simply video-taped murders to allow them to prosecute, but did nothing to stop the murder there would be hell to pay. If speeding is really as bad as it is being painted then surly there should be the same emphasis: prevent not detect (and fund raise)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK so don't speed.. then they can't catch you!!! How many times have you been overtaken or seen some maniac ovetaking in a mad rush and wished a copper had been around to catch them...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: speed camera helmets Reply with quote

This is absolute BOxxxxks Its hit the motorist AGAIN, Ok we should,nt speed,we shouldnt murder we should,nt steal we should,nt cause criminal damage to other peoples property, we should,nt do alot of things but that is life The thing is its easier to introduce another PLOY to raise easy money for the governement and associated departments by fining people who now and again push past the limit.If thatis the best proposal that the law can come up with then hell lets throw away the keys and call it a day.
Its a pity they dont look at other countries laws that would actually protect the honest working BRITISH citizen for a change or would deter people from going down the criminal route in the first place.

Examples of:

AMERICA: You can protect your home if some ass hole is in it that shouldnt be

NORWAY: They have a black and white drug law which allows certain amounts of certain substances for personal use If your caught with heroin you go to jail and you dont pass go

ARABIA: if your caught stealing you have it chopped off

The point is do you see thes countries faffing about with such ludricous idea,s like this or do you see them making proper laws?

The think tanks who thing of these idea,s should be lined up and SHOT

Point made i hope
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think they'll do it as the uk's stance on speed cameras has always been to make roads safer as opposed to making money - the hidden camera idea goes against what they're constantly telling us...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
i don't think they'll do it as the uk's stance on speed cameras has always been to make roads safer as opposed to making money - the hidden camera idea goes against what they're constantly telling us...

MaFt
I don't think they'll do it as a) they already use unmarked bikes with cameras on-board & b) the only "helmet cam" footage I've seen looks like it was taken while the helmet wearer was using a pneumatic drill!!! (but that may be down to the equipment!) Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These will not be introduced in the UK too soon, as they are very unreliable, if the helmet wearer moves his head suddenly, the camera can register a motorist that is doing 29mph as 100mph. Also at the moment the law states that the location of cameras must be visible, or advertised.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

malex1 wrote:
Also at the moment the law states that the location of cameras must be visible, or advertised.


The Government has the power to change the law as they see fit, don't be naive and think that they would'nt do it.
2 million people said NO to charging road users per mile, yet they are going ahead with trials.

crad wrote:

The whole idea simply stinks of corruption. Hide and fine – raise cash. Who givesa damn about road safety. If the police introduced a policy where they simply video-taped murders to allow them to prosecute, but did nothing to stop the murder there would be hell to pay. If speeding is really as bad as it is being painted then surly there should be the same emphasis: prevent not detect (and fund raise)


Very good points, BUT imho, speeding is not as big an issue as POOR driving, reckless driving and or road rage. For this, more traffic officers are needed, and not more camera's.
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