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Frits
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

Hi all



I experienced the routing issue in my neighborhood (Belgium) also.

I did a quick test with SP2 to and it took me off the mainroad and then back on.



So I think the bug is also in SP2 not fixed.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

The problem with the routing issue is that there are many places that suffer from this problem, so fixing all of them at once I think would be a very difficult task. Perhaps if there was an option for route calculation, ie.strict or fast calculations it might help with this problem, who knows, maybe in the next release!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

Hi onbashi



I don't think the routing problem is related to places. I did today some test. I tested only manualy (did not realy drive this roads). In my neigborhood I have one example where navigation always is wrong so i have a good reference. When I do a navigation from B to A (distance +- 3km) the routing works fine. When I do a navigation from C to A (shortest way is via B and navigation is taking me via B) then he takes me off the main road (into a very small street) and back on (ps distance between C and A +- 10km).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

I think its due to the software reading the maps incorrectly in certain places, so in order to eliminate the problem completely it is vital to know exactly where these places are, sp2 has fixed some of the known routing issues, i.e it no longer sends you up and down juntions 2 and 3 on the m25 when you set the destination north bound. I will say that these issues are a pain in the a** and there are lots of small routing problems all over the place that can make our journeys take longer, but I will also say that they cant address all of these area in one go.

Perhaps with the release of updated maps they will implement something to enable the software to calculate routes more efficiently.



Can anyone else help on this topic as frits does have a point?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

I was told by navman that the only difference between SP1 and SP2 is support for pocketpc 2003 !
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

Hi!



I dont think so......



With the latest SP1 patch the routing worked satisfactory in Stockholm. When going from north to south the software always chose the larger roads and avoided the citycenter.



With SP2 it goes straight thru the city center and that takes about 3-4 times as long as the larger roads.

I have checked that the avoid urban areas are checked.

So for me its a step backwords with SP2



Anyone else have this problem.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

Only relating what i was told. If there is a change then maybe support in NZ are the only ones we should contact. Any other users exprience a difference ?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

yep!, Ihave the blue bug! over by the brookfield centre on the A10, I wouldn't mine normally, but I had never seen it before I installed sp2.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

The blue bug is still around, it's never been fixed, but Navman say they have been able to reduce the effect of the blue bug which I have seen myself, it doesn't appear as much as it used to.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

I agree that it is rather small, the blue bug that is Laughing Out Loud, at first I thought it was a swimming pool in someones backyard, I rushed home to get my trunks and everything, oh well never mind ay! Laughing Out Loud

Is there a possibility that it may have been introduced into other areas due to the new service pack, because I must admit I'd never seen it before and thought that I must have been one of the lucky ones to have not experienced this problem in the past
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

It's always possible, but I'd doubt it, I would think that this would be something Navman would watch for.



The problem stems from how the maps are drawn with polygons, and certain areas may exhibit a problem more than others.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

Hi



Regarding my post about routing in SP2 above....



I have had some time to look into this.



It apears as the "avoid urban area" setting is changed. Because if I disable the "avoid urban area" everything works as with SP1 with "avoid urban area" enabled.



If I enable "avoid urban area" it takes me straight through the city instead of using the faster transit roads. It apears as the "avoid urban area" has a higer priority than "use fastest route" and sort of defaults to "use shortest route" but avoids urban areas.

In the countryside it works as it should and avoids urban areas.



I hope anyone understood what I was trying to say....



Just an update no reply needed.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

After having contacted Navman, they have said that the only change is PPC 2003 support.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

That's a shame, I was hoping for new features and improvements!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Have Navman fixed the Routing Issues-SP2? Reply with quote

I believe the only reason for releasing SP 2 was because it was essential to have PPC 2003 support. Not sure about you, but I'd rather Navman took their time and tested the next SP, rather than rushing it out the door.
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