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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject: ARTICLE COMMENTS: NAVTEQ Visit Reply with quote

Many people who read PocketGPSWorld.com and take part in the forums always have questions regarding NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas data, various questions like "why roads are not appearing in the end product release of the software I purchased?". We have been talking at length with both NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas recently about these sorts of questions and how the companies collect their data and process it.

NAVTEQ recently invited the PocketGPSWorld.com Team to visit one of their data field offices based in Borehamwood. Darren, Mike and myself attended the field office and the main objectives were to see NAVTEQ at work, receive a presentation, understand how the various data is collected and mapped into layers, and to take part in a road survey where a NAVTEQ data collection team drive and map some roads.

The full article is available here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting article - thanks Dave.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent and Informative article, thank you Dave.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thanks guys, good article!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully it's given a good insight into how NAVTEQ map the roads and what to expect from NAVTEQ in the very near future! :D
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should thank Navteq on our behalf for sharing their data collection process.

Now if only TeleAtlas were as accommodating for the benefit of tomTom and navman users Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another article can be found about Navtech on the PDAFrance website here. Of course it's in French but there are some nice pictures about the stuff they have in the car. So it may be interesting for you to look at, even if you don't understand French. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article contains links to 2 movies. One has no speech, only music. The second one, on the other hand, has speech ... in English and is very interesting! 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icsys wrote:
You should thank Navteq on our behalf for sharing their data collection process.

Now if only TeleAtlas were as accommodating for the benefit of tomTom and navman users Wink

We do actually have an invite pending from TeleAtlas, but it's trying to fit it in with our busy schedules (and day jobs). It means flying over to mainland Europe as there are no real field offices here in the UK for TeleAtlas.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ARTICLE COMMENTS: NAVTEQ Visit Reply with quote

Great article.

In some of the pictures, the co-driver is holding what I'm pretty sure is a Microsoft SideWinder gamepad - what do they use that for?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The French article says
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Un joystick de jeu est aussi utilise afin de faire plus rapidement les modifications (tracés, sélection d’objets,…).

which means
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A joystick is also used to do some changes more quickly (layout, object selection, ...

There are no more details about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snark wrote:
The French article says
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Un joystick de jeu est aussi utilise afin de faire plus rapidement les modifications (tracés, sélection d’objets,…).

which means
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A joystick is also used to do some changes more quickly (layout, object selection, ...

There are no more details about it.


Thanks. I bet that's a cover story and they just drive around playing games all day Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gamepad is basically used for quick navigation around the screen, having buttons assigned for various tasks. It's quicker than trying to move a mouse across the screen to click on a small icon (which can be difficult when the car is in motion).
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came back to re-read this article and it's started me thinking (uh oh).

For many years Sat Nav was something that was a three thousand pound option in expensive cars or a gadget brought by people who were technically minded (read geeks). Wink

Things have changed out of sight in the past couple of years - these aren't geek toys anymore. You can now buy a good sat nav system for a couple of hundred quid, they are much easier to use and you can choose from a wide selection of them in Dixons or PC world. Sat Nav has firmly entered the mainstream.

It's time for Navteq, TeleAtlas, CoPilot, TomTom et al to raise their game.

Selling street maps of major cities which are over 5 years out of date is fast becoming unacceptable. Paper maps are kept up-to-date with the latest road changes, so why can't Navteq and TeleAtlas do the same?

True, this is not entirely the fault of Navteq and TeleAtlas. The satnav suppliers have to raise their game too. They need to start supplying the very latest maps and regular updates (free for a year, included in the price).
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also believe that since they are becoming a 'consumer' rather than the previous 'business' market product, with vast increases in the quantities provided, some of these economies should start to be passed on to the consumer.

After all, the same data is often used to produce the printed maps - and the costs of production for a CD/DVD is considerably less than the cost of printing/shipping a road atlas.

Perhaps we should also be moving away from the providing of the maps soley by the producer of the software. Perhaps rather than, for example, ALK paying Navteq royalties, Navteq should be able to provide us with the latest maps directly in the appropriate format, with Navteq then paying ALK the royalty.

I fully appreciate that this system may well be totally incompatible with the current software - but when you consider how much ALK charge to unlock extra countries - no way can those amounts be justified if the units provided continues to increase at the current rate.

Put simply, what I would like to see, is a separation between the providers of the data (ie maps) and the providers of the software to present that data to us.
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