Nuvi 3598-D First impressions / Latest firmware (4.80)

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:58 am Post subject:

I'm confused. No nuvi I've heard of comes with a card already installed, maybe you got a refurbished unit? Also if you had 3.01 Gb free at the start of the map update process it should have ample room for the new map, as the old one is deleted.

Ignore the language text reminder, things like that occur on some nuvis with the updater not realising you've already applied the update.

Back to the maps. To see what is installed you need to do two things to reveal the hidden .system folder which is where they reside. Set Explorer to show hidden AND system files:

and set your nuvi to mass storage and not mtp mode:

1. Start NUVI by itself and go to Volume Screen.
2. Press the upper right hand corner of screen for 10 seconds.
3. The Developers Screen will pop up
4. Scroll down to MTP SETTINGS
5. Change from AUTO DETECT to MASS STORAGE
6. Shut down NUVI and connect to PC
7. It should now connect in mass storage mode.

As an alternative to step 1 above, you can bring up the Nuvi's "dashboard" screen, then press and hold the speedometer for about 10 seconds to access the developer screen.

Once you can see what's in .system post back with the map files there and what's on the card (the .img files and any associated .unl and .gma files)

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

Firstly, thank you so much for your advice and help.

It doesn't seem like a refurbished unit in the sense that it is immaculate with no fingermarks (original sticker on screen) or packaging disturbed (only one serial number sticker on the box). On the Halfords UK website, a person reviewing the item they bought also commented that there was a 4GB micro SD card in their 3598. Nevertheless I was a bit surprised to see it there. My unit actually says 3598 on the sticker on the back of the unit, unlike many who have found it says 3597.

I used the tip you gave to connect in mass storage mode and I could see the 3D map component was still on the main device even though I had installed the main maps on the memory card. I removed the 3D map which meant there was 3.7GB free but still even the GarminMapUpdater said there wasn't enough space and that I needed 3.1GB (which of course makes no sense at all).

So then, having installed the maps on the memory card...I tried to copy the main map and 3D map onto the internal storage by drag and drop. It doesn't fit! This is partly related to the GUPDATE.GCD file. So I removed that and it fits with only 47MB left. If I try to reinstall the maps, it says there isn't enough space again. This is far too tight. When I first got the unit it said it had 200MB free. Then after the first batch of non map related updates this dropped to 100MB. SID folder is 984MB, ASR folder is 1.02GB and JCV folder is 447MB. Total storage capacity is 7.02GB

If you look at the size of the main European file it is now absolutely massive. I think they have started to put the 4GB cards in the units because they know these new European maps won't fit otherwise!

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:41 am Post subject:

That's the correct size for the full EU map. I only use a partial reload on mine, and just install Western Europe ... you might consider that?

The other option is to delete all the EULA, voice, text, vehicle and keyboard files that you don't want/need to help free up space.

Failing that I guess you're stuck with the sd card.

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:57 am Post subject:

I guess so. Maybe Garmin are indeed shipping them with sd cards now in recognition of that. To change map coverage in Express it's here:

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

Thanks. But Garmin Express won't let me install Western Europe. It is greyed out due to filesize. See the screenshot where you can see some lines are grey and some are black.

However GarminMapUpdater WILL let me install Western Europe. Sounds like the Express version is wrongly calculating free space

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:24 am Post subject:

Strange ... but then Express is still a bit of a 'work in progress' Smile

I continue to use MapUpdater Wink

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:23 pm Post subject:

Run WebUpdater ... that should replace any 'missing' files.

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject:

Quite possibly ... I suspect all will be well. Enjoy your new toy Very Happy

(PS Worth backing it up now)

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

sussamb · Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:37 pm Post subject:

No idea about that one ... you may need to contact Garmin Customer Support unless someone else here can chime in and help.

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

I called Garmin. I was pleased to find it went through to a UK call center. They tried it there and found it was missing. They emailed me very quickly afterwards to say the PhotoLive service has been withdrawn temporarily due to problems with the coverage (only London is working at the moment). Once the motorway cameras are working again they will reintroduce it..... (no ETA)

jonstatt · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 19, 2005 Posts: 140

So I had my first couple of journeys with my 3598. On the whole I was impressed but I had a couple of catastrophic issues where the map suddenly became all grey except for the turn arrow. All the menus and other screens are absolutely fine when this happens, so it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue. It's like it had problems loading some of the map at that moment in time. I have seen another reference on the forums to this issue. I had to pull to the side of the road and power it off and on again and then it would display correctly again. It happened twice..... If it keeps doing this it will have to go back unfortunately.

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