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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: M4 average speed cameras catch 1,200 drivers Reply with quote

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The BBC reports that more than 1,200 drivers have been caught speeding through average speed camera controlled road-works on the M4 in Wiltshire in less than two months. The highest speed recorded was 107mph, and this is in road-works!

I continue to be amazed at the number of motorists who seem to be oblivious to SPECS camera zones and make no attempt to slow down as they enter them. There seems to be a widely held belief that they don't work, and they couldn't be more wrong!

A SPECS zone on the M4/M5 near Bristol last year caught 14,000 drivers. There is no way of knowing if these cameras are live or not but, for road-works at least, they are there for obvious safety reasons, to protect construction workers and their equipment. Speeding through road-works is just plain stupid.

Meanwhile, SPECS manufacture Vysionics ITS, has agreed to amend its advertising after a complaint was made to the Advertising Standards Authority. Its claims that "on average reduce KSIs (Killed and Seriously Injured casualties) by more than 70 per cent" could not be proven as there were other factors involved in the reductions.

Source: BBC and theNewspaper.com. Image courtesy of FreeFoto.com

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evolution in action! Very Happy

In Italy they are called Tutor, and the number of deaths in the area covered by Tutors dropped by 27%, they say.

A new version called Vergelius check not only the average speed between the two points, but also the actual speed at each point. And the Vergelius are not on highways, where you find normal Tutors, but on state roads, where the top speed is 90kmh...
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: M4 average speed cameras catch 1,200 drivers Reply with quote

They don't go in for speed cameras in the USA,
but get caught speeding through road works and the normal penalty is doubled! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Killed or Seriously Injured Reply with quote

Can we please push for this "statistic" to be split into it's constituent parts. The amalgamation of deaths and injuries is not stating the result of incidents in a clear way. In many cases where the statistic is quoted, there have actually been no deaths, and the "Seriously Injured" is subjective at best, and misleading at worst. The UK definition of "Seriously Injured" covers injury resulting in a patient being detained in hospital as an in-patient and certain other injuries requiring medical treatment even if the treatment does not result in a stay in hospital as an in-patient.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Killed or Seriously Injured Reply with quote

Cunninar wrote:
Can we please push for this "statistic" to be split into it's constituent parts.
I think that 'they' will use the statistics to suit their mission. Loads of omissions and those taken out of context that suit them are of course included. I think you stand a better chance of flying to the moon than getting 'them' to publish really meaningful statistics with the actual figures and definitions of what they mean.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Killed or Seriously Injured Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:
Cunninar wrote:
Can we please push for this "statistic" to be split into it's constituent parts.
I think that 'they' will use the statistics to suit their mission.


Doesn't really matter anyway as 85% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

85% surely not ....


I thought it was much closer to 110%
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although this is slightly off original topic, it is still on the topic of statistics.

When you're travelling through those miles and miles of roadworks on our motorways, regardless of whether they are 'protected' by a SPECS system.

  1. How often do you actually see a workman at all?
  2. When you do see them, what percentage of workmen actually appear to be working instead of snoozing in a truck/excavator, on a tea break, or having a chat? Out of here

Surely scheduled road work should be planned so that things are done in a logical order one stage at a time? Yep, there goes that porcine flight again!

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exportman wrote:
85% surely not ....


I thought it was much closer to 110%


That's only if you include the unknown unknowns
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Killed or Seriously Injured Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:

Doesn't really matter anyway as 85% of statistics are made up on the spot.
MaFt


I 99% agree with that.
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