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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I shall now go google to find out who my MP is and have a bit of a look at his expenses.

I used MS Excel and with some =sum(a1:a20) etc it quickly worked out all the totals.

I've lost your e-mail address but if you PM it (again) I'll send my completed Excel, all you'll then have to do is insert figures for your MP.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spreadsheet's not much use to me at present - I simply can't yet find the details you seem to find, only the released stuff, none of the nitty gritty like washing machines and packets of ginger nuts. I'm a bit good with spreadsheets myself too, except I use a decent one (Lotus 123). I make one entry and all my thingies are recalculated - balance sheet, vat return, tax return, that sort of stuff. I just wish I could get the rubber feet to stay stuck on my keyboard! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went HERE

clicked on House of Commons: Allowances by MP.

Look down the list for your MP and click on Allowances

Now you can select each .pdf to check what they've spent on.

The first part will show what they claimed for followed by bills they had tendered for each.

Make a note in Excel or Lotus for that month then go down the page to the next month, which may not be in monthly order. When done go to the following year.

I've PM'd you as Postmaster returned my mail. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, well, well.

My MP, Paul Clark, appears to have paid back everything I had on the list, see previous post, barring about £1000, which I assume is for the 'blanked out' repairs which must have been a valid claim.

I can't wait for him to do his electioneering in the next 3 months or so and come knocking at my door. I'll ask him if he would like me to scritinise his future claims. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if he would like me to scritinise his future claims
? Is this a new word for 'look at'??? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed And you could scritinise for me M8TJT. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two questions...

1. How come none of these have been prosecuted yet? They should ALL have been locked up long ago.

2. How come the investigation cost more than they are paying back? I have to wonder what sort of expenses the investigator is claiming for a few months work. It took 390 MPs five years to over-claim that much!!! Don't we get real value for money (not).

Mind you, I did a delivery (sub contract for a transport firm as usual) today some 85 miles to a solicitors office, a packet of 12 biros and 500 DL window envelopes. I'll be charging just under £50, the transport firm will charge probably £85 or more. I bought 100 DL window envelopes myself last weekend for just under £2 and the biros must be worth about the same. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At £50.00 per letter + envelope should net him £2,500.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. How come none of these have been prosecuted yet? They should ALL have been locked up long ago.


Just heard on TV there are 3 Labour MP's and 1 Tory Peer who are to be prosecuted, a fifth has been dropped, insufficient evidence, and a sixth still being decided.

Never quite caught it but it could be up to 7 years for fraudulent accounting or 10 years for fraud. Yeah, you bet they will if found guilty.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xda wrote:
At £50.00 per letter + envelope should net him £2,500.


I'll have to check with Anita because I thought that would be £25,000? Confused

They're being done under the Theft Act and it's only up to 7 years, with 6 years and 11 months 27 days off for good behaviour (good behaviour in the pokey, not outside where they did bad behaviour).

My reading of the situation is these 4 are accused of false accounting, namely submitting false claims for things which didn't exist (e.g. mortgages and night subsistence allowances for staying in hotels etc when they were home in bed). All the other 390 MPs are being let off with repaying what they shouldn't have claimed for - in other words, they had genuine, not false, receipts. There is, apparently, a difference. Rolling Eyes I have yet to hear an indication of the amount of money involved in the case of the Tory Peer - Telegraph claimed he had over £100,000 in overnight allowances in 7 years.
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