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New Map 835.2419 Released
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Guinness2702
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guinness2702 wrote:
You guys are great!
TT support sucks!

Big big thank you Smile


One thing...somewhere along the way, I seem to have lost my custom POIs I'm guessing that either the factory reset, or the soft reset (i.e. the press the power button for 15 seconds) may have trashed these. I don't have a backup prior to doing the resets...have I just lost these? If not, what files do I need to retrieve from the backup I made prior to applying AndyVaughan's fix do I need to restore?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All your old custom POIs should still be in your old map's folder, if you can find that on a backup.

All you need to do is copy all the files with .ov2 and .bmp extensions from the old map's folder and put them in the new maps' folder on the TomTom.

You can do that with Windows Explorer - make sure you have it set to show you all the file extensions (in XP this is in the Tools menu / folder options / view tab - then UN-tick "hide extensions for known file types".
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P wrote:
All you need to do is copy all the files with .ov2 and .bmp extensions from the old map's folder and put them in the new maps' folder on the TomTom.


I saw all the OV2 files, but none with names that made me think that they were my custom POIs. I would assume, for example that my "Circuits" POI set would be called Circuits.ov2.
Thanks for the tip, though, will give it a try anyway when I get home Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d like to thank everybody here, who’s posted solutions because after I’d upgraded to V835.2419 I too had to replace the mapsettings.cfg file with the previous one that I’d backed up before the upgrade and I also had to operate it from the TT Home Emulator before I could get the 730T to work.

I’ve been using the V835.2419 maps since installing them on 21st August 2009 but I’ve not had traffic working. So today I trawled through this thread to get the answers. As of 15:00 on 3rd September 2009 I now have traffic.

I’d like to especially thank AndyVaughan and mikealder for their advice on getting the RDS-TMC traffic to work with the following advice:

Manually extract the tmccodes.dat and traffic.dat files from your downloaded map and overwrite the files in the map folder on your TomTom unit.

Then delete the gnsdata file from the gns folder on the TomTom unit.


Edit: I just used the sound advice found on the PocketGPSWorld forum, i.e. this thread) and at no point did I follow any advice from TomTom which includes:

Arrow Backup (although it is good to backup regularly, via Windows Explorer)
Arrow Format
Arrow Use the Clear Flash tool
Arrow then re-install everything

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guinness2702 wrote:
Andy_P wrote:
All you need to do is copy all the files with .ov2 and .bmp extensions from the old map's folder and put them in the new maps' folder on the TomTom.


I saw all the OV2 files, but none with names that made me think that they were my custom POIs. I would assume, for example that my "Circuits" POI set would be called Circuits.ov2.
Thanks for the tip, though, will give it a try anyway when I get home Smile


They *should* be there....
Any POI category you create on the machine gets put into the folder for the currently selected map, just like any that you download and add manually.

For example, as a test, I just created a POI category on my Go940 called "Hellomum".
The two files "Hellomum.ov2" and "Hellomum.bmp" were created in my "Western_and_Central_Europe" folder.

You're not looking in the "pois" folder are you? That's just used by 'Home' to keep a track of stuff that *it* has added.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
I’d like to especially thank AndyVaughan and mikealder for their advice on getting the RDS-TMC traffic to work


No worries - after a while you seem to pick up all the common problems, especially if you have had a x20/x30 which seem to have been particularly problematic product lines.

Everything I know probably came from Mike originally anyway, so the thanks should go to him!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Credit where it is due though Andy, it was you that first spotted the mess the v835 map update did to the Traffic related files, I have repeated this advice about the files being 0Kb on at least 5 other GPS related forums so the issue isn't just affecting a few users.

I wonder if TomTom are still offering pathetic advice on how to resolve this issue (Backup, format, clear flash then re-install everything) rather than e-mailing callers a copy of the post detailing how to fix the problem - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a case of piecing it all together from the problems and resolutions already posted really - I think you spotted one of the traffic files being 0Kb before I did - I just took the approach that if one file is 0Kb and others seem to have been screwed up as well then replace all of the traffic related files.

The gnsdata file is an old fix for a multitude of problems - file access errors, traffic not working etc - the rest of the advice was just good practice of installing maps manually.

Wasn't up to the same quality of your post on how to roll back Navcores manually, I didn't have time (or a x20 to hand Laughing Out Loud) to post screenshots.

Notice how us XL LIVE users don't seem to be suffering from the same problems?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_P wrote:
They *should* be there....

You're not looking in the "pois" folder are you? That's just used by 'Home' to keep a track of stuff that *it* has added.


No, I definitely looked in the map sub-directory...actually, I also searched the entire device for file with "circuit" in the name. I suspect that the factory reset which El Incompitoes told me to do before I came here is the the culprit.

It annoys me that this is their suggested solution to every problem I have, and never actually solves the problem, but does always delete my preferences, favourites, and apparently now POIs

mikealder: The advice they gave me from 2nd line support was to delete just the map, and re-install via Home. I *didn't* do that, as by the time I finally received that advice, I'd looked here and found out how to fix it properly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been sent a customer satisfaction survey by TomTom - not the usual post-support call one, a much longer and in-depth one about my experiences with TomTom in general and my 740 Live in particular. Very unfortunate timing on TT's part. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seamaster wrote:
I've just been sent a customer satisfaction survey by TomTom -
Very unfortunate timing on TT's part. Twisted Evil


HaHa! Venting your spleen at them *almost* makes all the pain worthwhile, doesn't it? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See my other thread re traffic no longer working. I have done everything from this forum, and everything from TT, and still no traffic.

Oh and no gnsdata file in the gns folder either. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you look to see if your traffic.dat and tmccodes.dat files showed 0 bytes on the unit?

(if so, extract the same files from the compressed map cab file and use Explorer to copy them to the route of the unit).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are fine, 6.3Mb for the big one, and 1kB or something for the little one. Can't tell you for sure, its back in the box, about to be drop kicked over the garden wall Laughing

Having driven to Birmingham airport this morning, from Milton Keynes at 7:30, and then to Heathrow late this afternoon, 300 miles all told, traffic would have been good, but no, its not available any more Mad

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try and do a full Windows Explorer back up of your device.

Does it succeed? or do you get an error that it can't access a file?

Worth running a Windows Checkdisk with Automatically fix file system errors selected. If you get a hidden folder called FOUND.000 or similar then you had some corrupt files - time to get an old backup on the device after a full format as FAT32.

A hard reset and a clearflash or two might help as well.
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