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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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The issue with larger capacity cells is they are often physically larger in thickness, I doubt these will fit within the case.
To be honest the standard battery has enough charge capacity when new, my 18 month old 720 is currently only lasting 30 to 40 minutes without the charger connected (a real pain when you get a hire car with a dead ciggy lighter socket).
I will be swapping the cell out later this month once I get a replacement. Unless someone can locate something like a 3000mAh cell that will still fit then its probably best to stick to like for like component swapping, a couple of hundred mili amphours isn't going to be noticable in use - Mike |
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253 Lifetime Member

Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks for all the info.
I wil have a rummage for batteries and if i find anything compatible will get back.
It was just an idea, if I was going to replace then could it be with a longer lasting one. _________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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topgazza Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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A much larger battery wouldn't always be much bigger. Finding one might be. The standard one should be quite cheap anyway
Theres a guy on ebay sells them for £16 delivered. 1300 ah...... but thats OK its age and recharging that knackers them..in another 2 years just buy another......
Just search on TomTom 720 batteries _________________ TomTom 720
Nokia Lumia 800 with Nokia Maps, iPhone 4S with Apple Maps (sigh)
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 810 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mike
I have just had a good look at your instructions/pictures and I will save the Post in case I ever need to get into the 720. Thanks. _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14906 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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mikealder wrote: | Slightly closer view of the battery and the three pin multi way plug it is fitted with. | Oh for goodness sake, come on Mike!! I've just spent AGES staring fixedly at those pictures to try and find a battery with a three pin plug on it (just an academic interest, I quickly add - my fingers are not small enough to be mistaken for the optional tweezers, so I'll not be going there). Why can't you guru blokes draw arrers on things saying "This big black thing is the battery", "This little thing is the three pin plug" (I found that at the end of some wire -in the picture, not my 720 - after I found the battery, which I eventually discovered was black and had Lythium Polymer written on it or I would never have guessed). _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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topgazza Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thats Mike all over though. Never clear enough.....shoddy workmanship.....I blame the parents _________________ TomTom 720
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DraySoft Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Rugeley, Staffs
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi All,
Good news and bad news - good news I collected a replacement battery from GPSforLess today, thanks Trevor1234, followed Mike’s excellent instructions to gain access to the battery , all good news so far.
THEN.... start of bad news, the old battery is secured to the PCB with double sided tape the strength of which I have not seen before, after some considerable time I managed to free the battery. I then applied tape to new battery and stuck it to the PCB connected all connectors and reassembled my 720. ( I found it better to remove all the connectors due to the fact that I had to apply a considerable amount of effort to remove the old battery and I did not want to stress the thin wires)
I charged the unit for some time then switched it on, after a few ‘red crosses’ and hard resets the unit initialized correctly locking onto the GPS signals.
BUT.... All of the Bluetooth menu items are ‘greyed’ out I have reinstalled one of my backup’s but the Bluetooth still does not work, anyone got any ideas?
I should add I worked in the Electronics industry for 45 years before becoming a ‘white van man’ in this role I very often dismantled / repaired and calibrated all kinds of electronic instrumentation so I was not in the least phased by dismantling my 720. Getting to the battery is not the hard, removing it is nigh on impossible and I think I may have damaged the thin PCB in doing: so think twice before attempting to remove a Tomtom battery.
I will dismantle it again tomorrow and reconnect the ribbon cable just in case it has not seated correctly, however I did check it when I assembled today.
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topgazza Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hope its OK.
Curious how companies, TT aren't alone in this, make the replacement of a component that has a known "half life" and will fail before the device does almost impossible to remove. I would imagine even repair shops would have a problem. Sounds easier but a good scalpel and hours of patiently slicing away is the order of the day. Thats even if you can get under it enough
Not done it so Draysoft's warning is a very valid one.
Sheesh! _________________ TomTom 720
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Try Change Preferences/ Restore factory settings although this won't repair any PCB damage it should reset the device to default and then see if the BT options are available - Mike |
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DraySoft Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Rugeley, Staffs
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Mike - tried that before I installed the backup, as I said I am going to dismantle again to night and have a good look at the ribbon connector and also the PCB for damage.
Everything to do with the phone is missing from the menu's, the phone icon on the first menu screen and all bluetooth icons.
I will keep you posted.
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Trevor1234 Frequent Visitor

Joined: Apr 30, 2005 Posts: 810 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hi DraySoft
I’m sorry to hear that the 720 battery is so difficult to remove and the predicament that you now find yourself in. Please keep us posted as to the final outcome. Its something that we 720 users must bare in mind if our batteries ever begin to go down hill.
I just hope that you find out what’s wrong later this evening. _________________ Tomtom Go 720.
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topgazza Frequent Visitor

Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm an optimist...I reckon its a connector not sitting right... _________________ TomTom 720
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DraySoft Lifetime Member

Joined: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Rugeley, Staffs
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Well it must be a hardware fault I dismantled it again then reassembled it very carefully reinstalled the original software still no phone icon and all Bluetooth icons greyed out. Are well at least it still works as a GPS routing device, I will get it repaired if it can be in the near future.
On the Tomtom web site I note this :-
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Question.
Can I change the battery on my TomTom.
Answer.
No. If you have a problem with the battery, please contact TomTom customer support.
Don't forget that you can use your TomTom device in the car with the car charger and at home with the home charger or home dock even if you are having a problem with the battery.
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This doesn't help as has been said jf the car power outlet doesn't work or you want to use it outside.
If I were to do it again I would very ‘carefully’ cut the battery outer plastic sleeve with a scalpel, remove the old cells then peel the sleeve off the PCB.
I say ‘carefully’ as Lithium Polymer batteries can be VERY unpredictable if damaged in any way i.e. overcharge or shorted see this link http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcpANRFrI4 |
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Swingmanic Occasional Visitor

Joined: Aug 20, 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Western Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:20 am Post subject: GO 720 battery replacement! |
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One big tip guys...Don't try and remove the WHOLE battery with outer shrink wrap!
Simply peel the outer shrink wrap away from the original battery and lift the the battery out of the wrap, then place the new one inside the original wrap and gently stick the adhesive sides over the new battery.
If you do that, then you'll have no problems!!
And be careful of the zif connector that holds the ribbon cable of course...Very easy to break!!
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stuart Frequent Visitor

Joined: 20/04/2003 11:51:10 Posts: 405 Location: Dorset, England, Great Britain
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: Replacing inner items |
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Nice DIY pictures Mike...Now I wonder if I can use the same procedure to replace a speaker in a TomTom One v3 which my son has. I see Maplins sell the speaker here.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=227369
Has anyone replaced a speaker yet, I couldn't find a thread ! |
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