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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:32 am Post subject: £20m in Essex speeding fines may be refunded due to blunder |
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It's been a bad week for Speed/Safety Camera Partnerships. On Sunday we wrote that Dorset may have to refund £1.5m in fines due to errors in a traffic order for a Chideock speed camera.
Now comes news that Essex may have to return £20m in speeding fines following a blunder that meant tickets issues by the enforcement department were not legal.
The situation arose after it was discovered that a civilian employee responsible for sending the penalty letters to drivers may not have had the authorisation necessary in law as required by the 1988 Road Traffic Offenders Act.
The error in authorisation stretches back four years and estimates calculate that means nearly 300,000 motorists could be affected.
Essex Police are now discussing the matter with the Crown prosecution Service to establish their position. _________________ Darren Griffin
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Something is not working with the Read more link on the news article.
'Page not found' _________________ Dom
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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There will probably be a wriggle out of it policy that they'll magically produce. Something to do with not having the funds or something! But £20Million. _________________ Dom
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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mostdom wrote: | Something is not working with the Read more link on the news article.
'Page not found' |
Thanks Dom, now fixed. The perils of posting stories at 5am! _________________ Darren Griffin |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | mostdom wrote: | Something is not working with the Read more link on the news article.
'Page not found' |
Thanks Dom, now fixed. The perils of posting stories at 5am! |
What 'read more' link?? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | What 'read more' link?? |
The front page News item has a read more link which takes you to the article page. Same can be achieved by clicking the image in the lead post here. _________________ Darren Griffin
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that Darren I'll have to find the newsletter article because the image in the lead post takes you to a PGPSW page as indicated by the alt text |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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The link from the image icon in this thread throws me to an index page as it cannot find the article so somethings not quite right somewhere? - Mike |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Fixed. The front page news item creates a web page and forum post auto-magically.
But it is not intelligent enough to realise that '£' signs and similar are not valid characters for a web page and so the error as seen here occurs.
I then have to re-visit the posts, edit the links to remove the illegal character in the page name and then edit the page name.
I'd forgotten to do that to the forum post. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | Thanks for that Darren I'll have to find the newsletter article because the image in the lead post takes you to a PGPSW page as indicated by the alt text |
That's correct, it isn't in the Newsletter as that was sent out yesterday?
In this case the 'Read More' is a little misleading as all the editorial is contained in the news post. For other news items, the news post is a summary with the full article after the jump. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Steveee Lifetime Member
Joined: Dec 16, 2003 Posts: 203 Location: Colchester, Essex
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Well I am looking forwards to getting a refund for my SP30 from March 2007. However I will not be holding my breath! I suspect that they will use an excuse such as"you pleaded guilty, therefore the conviction remains".
Unfortunately on that day, I was running late so I did not boot up my TomTom and associated camera warnings. _________________ Steveee
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Snudge Lifetime Member
Joined: Aug 22, 2007 Posts: 211 Location: Peterborough
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's not just about refunding fines though - some people may have lost their licence and consequently lost their job, had their home repossessed and their family break up .
How can Essex police compensate them? |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Snudge wrote: | It's not just about refunding fines though - some people may have lost their licence and consequently lost their job, had their home repossessed and their family break up .
How can Essex police compensate them? |
Here, Here! However, government doesn't do compensation. _________________ Dom
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
Joined: Sep 06, 2006 Posts: 1618 Location: East Hertfordshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Steveee - I guess you will have seen a post on a related thread (Cheshire?) which suggests that you should still be able to get a refund as you pleaded guilty 'on the evidence provided' which, as the camera was illegal, was invalid evidence (I think that's how the logic went - anyway, I think it was from someone in 'the know'). _________________ David
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FrequentFlyer Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2006 Posts: 962 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: I wonder ? |
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I look forward to receiving refund of my one and only contested fine of £185, for allegedly doing 47mph on the A127 where it was posted 40mph, apparently.[/b] |
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