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c510 wont run when plugged into car 12v

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: c510 wont run when plugged into car 12v Reply with quote

my c510 goes straight to the "usb to pc" screen whenever i plug it into the car fag lighter socket,im unable to get it to anything to do with navigation.
on battery it works fine tho,is this a battery only gps unit?.
or is it knacked.
(thought id posted this but lost the post Laughing Out Loud)
thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: c510 wont run when plugged into car 12v Reply with quote

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my c510 goes straight to the "usb to pc" screen whenever i plug it into the car fag lighter socket

What are you connecting it to the cig. lighter socket with? Are you using the Garmin adaptor that plugs into the back of the C510, using a large rectangular plug? ... or have you got a generic USB charger that you're plugging into the side of the C510?

If it's the former, then there's some kind of fault with the C510.
If it's the latter, then what you're seeing is expected behaviour - there *is* a way round it, but it would be a bit of a nuisance to do everytime...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aahh.i have a car adapter with the mini usb on the end for the side socket,this is all that came with it,explained to me that this is the car charger.
which it obviously isnt,,Laughing Out Loud.
i will look out for the rear one.thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: c510 wont run when plugged into car 12v Reply with quote

PhilHornby wrote:
forx wrote:
my c510 goes straight to the "usb to pc" screen whenever i plug it into the car fag lighter socket

What are you connecting it to the cig. lighter socket with? Are you using the Garmin adaptor that plugs into the back of the C510, using a large rectangular plug? ... or have you got a generic USB charger that you're plugging into the side of the C510?

If it's the former, then there's some kind of fault with the C510.
If it's the latter, then what you're seeing is expected behaviour - there *is* a way round it, but it would be a bit of a nuisance to do everytime...


What is the way round? I have a generic charger that will plug into a mini USB when I don't want to use the traffic receiver but get the same problem. Interestingly plugging the Garmin mains charger into the same mini USB works normally. All 5V is not the same !!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: c510 won't run when plugged into car 12v Reply with quote

inspiredron wrote:
What is the way round?

If you stick your right-thumb on the time for about 7 seconds, the C510 goes into its Diagnostics mode ...
If you connect the USB while in this mode, the C510 enters an undocumented "Garmin USB GPS" mode, as opposed to Mass-storage mode -- you can exit the diagnostics and it will continue to function as a GPS. However -- the reason this mode is undocumented, may be that about 0.5% of the time, it malfunctions. See this web-page, under the heading "What can go wrong", before proceeding!

Alternatively, I'll bet that with a resistor on the 'right' pins of the USB connector, you can fool it into switching to "Fleet Management Interface Mode", where it's used as a serial port. Maybe it would still charge in this mode?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent information guys,many thanks.
was going to sell it on but will try to find this rear lead.
i cant find on uk ebay so will have to do some googling..
thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forx wrote:
... will try to find this rear lead.
I can't find on uk ebay so will have to do some googling..

This is the official Garmin product - quite pricey Sad
(The same adaptor is also used by the Nüvi 6xx series and Zümo).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: c510 won't run when plugged into car 12v Reply with quote

PhilHornby wrote:
However -- the reason this mode is undocumented, may be that about 0.5% of the time, it malfunctions. See this web-page, under the heading "What can go wrong", before proceeding!


The 660 diagnostics do not contain the USB mode option. In any event the 660 does not seem to have screws to take the battery out for the ultimate rescue. I guess that I will just have to let the GTM21 aerial dangle when I don't want it. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a zumo one thru amazon for £15.
just got to wait as the po are on strike now Laughing Out Loud.
cheers all.
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