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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, looks like I'm boycotted too - its their grand scheme in things. To stop any more dissent, don't allow the users to post! That way they can't be slagged off.

Oh well, their loss!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyway, we have this as a removed gatso so for types i guess 1 is gatso


DS did have removed Gatsos still left in the database, so would take that as normal.

The forum was used by members to submit camera positions, we were not always sure whether they were taken as you could drive past weeks later and had no warning.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, look in your PM.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What we could do with knowing is how many specific named camera types they are / were using, for example does watchman type have its own category - Mike


we could just ask them...?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt I have just sent you the same PM as to mikealder in request to his post at the bottom of page 1
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been banned also for asking is the Defender2 discontinued Confused

also that post got deleted back to their old ways Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well obviously these are the reactions of a company that is either "on the brink" of going under, or have already got there at Warp 10! Re-opening a forum, just to release an unencrypted database file, and preventing any user from posting. This is their last gasp before the end.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: ds database Reply with quote

They may as well be useful for something

how does one check which coordinates correspond with the Republic of Ireland

is there a tool or a range for ireland

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i created a seperate post for that question

http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=53858
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
mikealder wrote:
What we could do with knowing is how many specific named camera types they are / were using, for example does watchman type have its own category - Mike


we could just ask them...?



just out of interest in terms of making a ds-version of the database how does the 'camera type' data get used? do you get a specific warning for the different types? if so then we dont need the full list of types used by ds, so long as we have the right id numbers for the types in the pgpsw database.

i.e.
gatso
truvelo
monitron
specs
temp
mobile
pmobile (prob best to have this same as mobile!)
redlight


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is the Drivesmart database.
Its the first release of a commercial database that we know of.
Its a CSV file that can be uploaded in the user section of your DS loader program.
If you have Autoroute or other mapping software you can easily over lay and check out all the locations.
If your making ammendments yourself make sure you always have everything running in numerical order,If you don't do that it will error when uploading.
We will also be releasing the DS tools for uploading as a Master Database.


If you read this a couple of times it seems to tell us that they have made this new file, which all of us can get in to and alter, and even add an over lay to check, it evens prompts us to keep it in numerical order or it will fail, as if they are offering us a template for DIY.

The question is for what purpose are they really offering it?

Are they saying that they have offered this free update database for life, but somehow wish to wash their hands of it.
Are they trying to get all of us to modify it, although not sure how you would end up with one copy here to share, or do we all make up our own customised copy to keep and tweak as we choose – but will never be accurate, not that they care.

It doesn’t seem to be the work of a Company going bankrupt, as they wouldn’t have gone to this trouble.

It seems to me they are trying to get out of the database, as it is obviously a great amount of work so they can spend time on other things, being in CSV format makes it easy to access.

Interesting though lets have some input here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to let you know they have blocked my access to the forum.
Horay!!!!!!!!!its the only decent thing they have done for months.

This is what I think of that Burn In Hell

Cheers!

DS just in case you do read this

AKA Tim Stilgoe

ps Bet they roo the day Neil went.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaFt wrote:
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just out of interest in terms of making a ds-version of the database how does the 'camera type' data get used? do you get a specific warning for the different types? if so then we dont need the full list of types used by ds, so long as we have the right id numbers for the types in the pgpsw database.


If it is any help, PM your address etc and i will send you a DS GPS unit with the latest database on (before today's offered version as hex type)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few points for all concerened:

- All users of the DS forum can not post at this time.

-It is good that DS have released a CSV file so at least we can move forward.

-The file is not a standard CSV type, the reason I could not upload more than a few cameras when I created a database was due to not knowing that they should be in numerical order.

Darren

Have you worked out what the first colum of numbers is used for? They range between -9 and 153

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WLMOATE wrote:
Have you worked out what the first colum of numbers is used for? They range between -9 and 153


The numbers were explained on page one of this thread, the value is the Longitude in degrees where a negative value is west, posative is East. This is why I called it a "Strange" format, you need to join values from column A and B then B and C to get the data needed. Perhaps the quote below explains a little more? - Mike

mikealder wrote:
Longitude; Latitude; Speed; single/ both direction; Type; Heading (where Known)

speed in MPH

Type:
1 = GATSO, Watchman
8 = "Watermark" - unless anyone can add to these?
9 = Mobile
10= Redlight
12 = Truvelo
13 = SPECS

I think this data looks out of date considering the "spot checks" I have tried while validating the categories
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