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Do you approve of speeding on public roads?
Yes, I unreservedly approve of speeding
2%
 2%  [ 4 ]
Yes, but only when I feel it's safe to do so
60%
 60%  [ 119 ]
I don't actually approve of speeding, but nevertheless I sometimes speed when in a hurry
25%
 25%  [ 50 ]
I don't approve of speeding and never consciously break the speed limit
12%
 12%  [ 24 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone have the figures as to what percentage get as far as court?


Yup. I've got some recent ballpark figs lurking around somewhere - I'll see if I can dig them out and provide. Just don't hold your breath. Between family, dogs, running a business, working, and other interests, hours are too few. As I'm sure all you PGPSW guys have recently discovered! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

astrocompass wrote:
Just don't hold your breath. Between family, dogs, running a business, working, and other interests, hours are too few. As I'm sure all you PGPSW guys have recently discovered! Rolling Eyes


It sounds as if you have a life though! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first post on PGPSW (Hi all, BTW Wink ) and I think this is the appropriate thread to voice my first comments.

I've got to say that ever since purchasing my first GPS, I've stopped speeding as much as I used to. The reason is not the speed camera database (although that's why I'm here of course) but the fact that my GPS units give me the arrival time for my journey. I have a 92-mile trip that I make to see one particular client on a regular basis. I've discovered that the difference in arrival time between driving this route at national speed limits, and what I consider to be safe "excessive" speeds (eg 85 on dry duel carriageway mid morning) is only 6 minutes for that journey! I find myself wondering why I take the chance of getting caught for 6 minutes.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Bruce and many thanks for your contribution. Welcome

You'll find that once you've posted it's difficult to stop! Anybody out there that hasn't posted yet, now is an ideal time to try it Wink

Who's going be brave and be the first to reply to the rather serious topic 'Do Speed Cameras Save Lives?' at http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=33976
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaptainK wrote:
I've got to say that ever since purchasing my first GPS, I've stopped speeding as much as I used to. The reason is not the speed camera database (although that's why I'm here of course) but the fact that my GPS units give me the arrival time for my journey.

Knowing the arrival time certainly makes a difference, if only in stress levels.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically, I possibly speed a little more now since having GPS, or perhaps a little more consistently.

Before, I would do 80-85mph fairly cautiously. Now I have a GPS speed reading and realise that when it read 85mph on my Speedo, I was only doing about 75. The result? I do "85" on the car speedo a bit more than I used to....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nej wrote:
Ironically, I possibly speed a little more now since having GPS, or perhaps a little more consistently.

Before, I would do 80-85mph fairly cautiously. Now I have a GPS speed reading and realise that when it read 85mph on my Speedo, I was only doing about 75. The result? I do "85" on the car speedo a bit more than I used to....

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I don't see it as actually speeding but I find that in road works for example with a 50mph limit that I travel slightly faster than most other traffic because I 'know' I am travelling at 50 even when the speedo shows 55.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone have the figures as to what percentage get as far as court?
Unquote.

Done some quick'n'dirty digging. These figs refer to SCP detected endorseable offences, and overall, between 1%-5% end up in court, the vast majority of which are for defaulting on payment of the Conditional Offer rather than contesting the case. There are one or two areas where the figures are rather higher, but this is due to a larger number of defaulted payments.

One example of a Southern Force: about 6000 endorseable SCP detected offences per month, defaulters to court about 60 per month, contested cases about 10 per month.

Any comments from our Criminal Justice members?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a Question about the tomtom speedo vs the car speedo.
Both are diffrent ie the tomtom is showing slightly slower than the car speedo, which one is correct?
Oh, this happens in all the cars that i drive.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't speak for the TomTom, but GPS-based speed calculations should be very accurate, while cars intentionally overrate their speeds to avoid unintentionally causing you to break the speed limit. Card speedo readings will vary according to the pressure in their tyres, because of the change of wheel radius.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iankb wrote:
Card speedo readings will vary according to the pressure in their tyres, because of the change of wheel radius.

Of course, I meant 'Car speedo readings ...' but can't edit it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Speeding yes, sometimes Reply with quote

Oh what the hell, in the summer and I am on my way to work at 5.30 am for a 6.00 am start of shift, the M62 where I travel is little used that time in the morning, I give it a blast, We can all think what might happen if you had a blow-out, newish cars now cruise 100 mph like they ar'nt even moving.
Can't tell me that you guy;s don't push over the ton now and then, And before you all jump on me about brakes, these things will haul to a crawl faster than the speedo needle can drop.
Like I said, the sun is up, visibility is, couldnt' be any better,
Then somebody comes past you at 150 plus, . . .
Il'l probably get slated for this but anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If speeding is dangerous in a car along a motorway, what speed is dangerous on my motorbike??? The goverment will be making us all put staberlisers on our bikes soon Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firebird - no slating from me. I'd be tempted to do the same thing.

As for blowouts, I had a rear tyre blow at 85mph once. It was no problem, I didn't lose control of the vehicle and I came to a nice controlled stop on the hard shoulder. The car barely wobbled.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's where cars have improved in safety. I had a front tyre go on a 1961 Ford Consul, and I crossed three lanes, the hard shoulder, and almost cleared the ditch. Smile
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